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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


driver - 26 May 2005 16:37 - 4934 of 27111

1910
Re R/Page and 'I did not know that Frogpack was "live" in the UK already"

More importantly than that, is the huge potential market for Frogpack its could be at least as big or bigger than Greenseal see article 5 of the R/Page.

Research Page.


http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/ShowPostList?fID=1&tID=5042

Chiva20 - 26 May 2005 16:42 - 4935 of 27111

I think we can read a lot into the activity today. I was concerned about dropping to a 20-23p trading range, but there still appears to be plenty of investors prepared to push the sp up. Ek taking a hike helps of course. Personally I feel comfortable that we're looking at a 24-25p support level. resistance? Who knows.

paulmasterson1 - 26 May 2005 17:04 - 4936 of 27111


Hi All,

SEO have put some interesting datasheets on FrogPack and Cradlewrap on the http://www.stanelco.co.uk website.

I could not find the links to them on the website, but found the files in a google search !!!!

http://www.stanelco.co.uk/about%20files/FrogPack%20Datasheet.pdf

http://www.stanelco.co.uk/producttest%20files/Cradlewrap%20Data%20Sheet%20V22.pdf

Cheers,
PM

bhunt1910 - 26 May 2005 17:09 - 4937 of 27111

Driver - thanks for that - I have now included the r/page in my "favourites" - and without realising that it was your work - I had already sent a copy of it on to some friends who wanted a succint and reasoned analysis of the company.

Clearly I missed the reference to Frogpak & Uk - but I do agree with you - that longer term Frogpak could be bigger that the tray lidding operation - given time and expert marketing.

Cheers

baza

driver - 26 May 2005 17:17 - 4938 of 27111

1910
You sent my page to your friends what about me copy right, fiver in the box.

bhunt1910 - 26 May 2005 18:32 - 4939 of 27111

I checked for the copyright sign - but as it was all public domain stuff - I thought it was ok - but I will happily contribute a fiver to the drinking fund in Doncaster

Baza

paulmasterson1 - 26 May 2005 18:42 - 4940 of 27111

Driver Hi,

I doubt FrogPack will be as big as Greenseal, my reasoning is that the entire USA market for protective mailers is said to be worth $1Bn in 2006. So, if Stanelco received royalties of 10% (3p of a 30p mailer for example), if they managed to get 100% of the USA market, they would be looking at $100m in total revenue.

It would be mad to suggest that Frogpack could take 100% of the market.

As far as Greenseal is concerned, the total USA market will likely end up at 100,000 machines, when all the different types are converted (MAP, Non-MAP, Pot Fill and Seal, Bags, Thermoform, Ready Meals, etc), so the market for Greenseal is worth 100,000 times $55,000, which is $5,500,000,000 !!!!

Put another way, Stanelco only need to convert 1819 machines to hit $100m, the total market value to them of Frogpack in the USA. It is very likely this target will be beaten within 6-12 months(a conservative estimate !)

I prefer to see FrogPack as covering all costs for Stanelco, thereby making Greenseal revenue 100% PROFIT :)

Anything Greenseal can add, after the company running costs are taken out, will be a bonus :)

Cheers,
PM


ptholden - 26 May 2005 19:04 - 4941 of 27111

I'm not too sure what is worse, the rubbish posted by IIdiot deramping SEO or the last post by Paul Masterson suggesting that the US market for Greenseal 'will likely end up at 100,00 machines.' At the moment, SEO have a contract for ONE confirmed machine in the UK. There is the rumour that Walmart will follow ASDA but not substantiated, nevermind a contract and now we have a leap to 100,000 machines. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest whatsoever that Greenseal technology WILL be used by this number of machines. Fair enough to say that the possible market may be this size but to state categorically that this is where SEO will end up is the worst kind of ramping and does PM no credit at all.

I like many have a vested interest in the success of SEO, but have a sensible view of what will be achieved, rather than flights of fancy.

What a load of rubbish.

PTH

Sequestor - 26 May 2005 19:17 - 4942 of 27111

ptholden,
I see that the ADVFN import from "Rampers are US" has been received with accolades,-----------
"As far as Greenseal is concerned, the total USA market will likely end up at 100,000 machines, when all the different types are converted (MAP, Non-MAP, Pot Fill and Seal, Bags, Thermoform, Ready Meals, etc), so the market for Greenseal is worth 100,000 times $55,000, which is $5,500,000,000 !!!!
---------

I would echo your scoff,but with a more appropriate- "utter bollox"-oh and a further ROFLMFAO!!!!!!
Where do these clowns come from, even more worrying, what sort of moron applauds them?

paulmasterson1 - 26 May 2005 19:19 - 4943 of 27111

ptholden/Sequestor Hi,

Where do I "state categorically that this is where SEO will end up" ????

Don't try and twist my words in order to try and ridicule me !!!!

You said "Fair enough to say that the possible market may be this size"

I said the 'market will likely end up at 100,000 machines"

Nowhere do I say what percentage Stanelco will get of it !

Your welcome to edit those posts, and your welcome to suggest a re-wording of my post so that we are all happy :)

Cheers,
PM

Poverty - 26 May 2005 19:21 - 4944 of 27111

F*@K EK - He can eat my shorts - he is also a liar - he lost money on a recent SEO short 'cos they headed north really sudden and fast - caught him with his shorts down - but so what - he hasn't got enough money to risk shorting SEO seriously and affecting the price.

"Higher highs and higher lows" - whomever said that on this board is correct!

paulmasterson1 - 26 May 2005 19:32 - 4945 of 27111



Hi All,

Does anyone use the Mobile streaming MoneyAM ?

Any idea of the amount of data it sends ?

Cheers,
PM

ptholden - 26 May 2005 19:36 - 4946 of 27111

PM

Your quote:

"As far as Greenseal is concerned, the total USA market will likely end up at 100,000 machines, when all the different types are converted (MAP, Non-MAP, Pot Fill and Seal, Bags, Thermoform, Ready Meals, etc), so the market for Greenseal is worth 100,000 times $55,000, which is $5,500,000,000 !!!!"

This clearly states that 100,000 machines will be using Greenseal technology. In case you have forgotten Greenseal (TM) is a SEO product. That is a categorical statement. So no, I don't need to edit any posts, perhaps you need to have a good look at yours and try to understand what you have said.

PTH

Sequestor - 26 May 2005 19:42 - 4947 of 27111

paulmasterson1
aka PMT

geddoutahere!!!!!!!!!

ps
fresh not packaged food is the future- read EU rules about to happen.

paulmasterson1 - 26 May 2005 20:03 - 4948 of 27111

ptholden hi,

I say nothing of the sort, I state what I think will be the market size, nowhere do I say that Stanelco will get 100% of that market !

I will leave it to the other readers to make their own minds up on that one :)

Cheers,
PM

paulmasterson1 - 26 May 2005 20:06 - 4949 of 27111


I have been informed by an FYB user, that there is a poster on here, also known as an ADVFN basher, I only have one thing to say to that poster ....

Sequestor - 26 May'05 - 19:42 - 4946 of 4947 (Filtered)

And I was hoping that I wouldn't need to filter on here.

Cheers,
PM

Sequestor - 26 May 2005 20:09 - 4950 of 27111

I said the 'market will likely end up at 100,000 machines"

Nowhere do I say what percentage Stanelco will get of it

-------------

duh!!!!!!!!!!
Sophism reigns.

hahahah
filtered by a moron- thank God for small mercies.

Sequestor - 26 May 2005 20:10 - 4951 of 27111

paulmasterson1 - 26 May'05 - 20:06 - 4948 of 4949 (Filtered)

lying ramper of the decade

geddoutahere!!!!!!!

Sequestor - 26 May 2005 20:14 - 4952 of 27111

paulmasterson1 - 26 May'05 - 20:03 - 4947 of 4950
ptholden hi,
I say nothing of the sort, I state what I think will be the market size, nowhere do I say that Stanelco will get 100% of that market !
-----------------

pre-filtering!!!!!!!!

ROFLMFACBH&TO!!!!!!!!

Sequestor - 26 May 2005 20:18 - 4953 of 27111

When ASDA exclusivity runs out, the rollout will really move into top
gear, with a queue of retailers (Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrisons, M&S,
Etc Etc) all wanting Stanelco's RF fitted ASAP. Plus all the existing
ASDA suppliers will want to convert their non-ASDA lines, plus all
<> other suppliers wanting to supply the major retailers, will need RF to
compete.
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supposition/lies/exaggeration/ramping.
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