Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

I just love it that we voted OUT ....

granny , Owen Smith , more to the point how thick must he be ? a huge number of Labour voters voted out ,does he think another referendum would win him an election ,and to think these morons want to run our country .

I to just love it that we voted out and don't have ANY voter remorse
whatsoever..

As to Owen Smith being thick...He's not thick just anti democratic, and
no different from the rest of the champagne socialist, at least Corbyn has
said that the people have spoken and the UK should LEAVE the EU.

you guys are hilarious

there are stupid ways of implementing "leave EU" like throwing all the toys out of the pram without properly thinking it through

and a more sensible approach to "leaving EU" wherein all aspects are properly considered and discussed - and with an end result with which no one is truly happy; ie a "good result"

Thee is a growing appetite for Soft Brexit

With who Haystack ,you ?
if it doesn't happen the Tory party are in deep water mark my words ,just remember what i said in 3 years time you will see a shock to British politics .+

I actually don't think that's going to happen ,for the moment i'm going to trust May ,she sacked the little twit that is Osbourne in quite a cruel way that will do for starters .

my attitude and opinion has remained constant once i decide that "out" was the way i would vote

With the City, some larger businesses and the EU.

Well you can't count the EU and what the 3 stooges are proposing shows that we were right to vote 'Leave' Whilst there are difficult times ahead they will be shown to be less difficult than if we voted to 'Remain'
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/26/parliament-must-decide-what-brexit-means-in-the-interests-of-the/

Well Haystack, you know what you can do with your version of brexit!

Not mine. I prefer a complete cut, but I am not convinced we will get it

does your definition of "a complete cut" mean severing all trading links with eu?

No. That would be impossible. I would prefer to be treated as though we were not adjacent to EU, such as Australia and have us swallow tariffs if necessary to avoid other constraints.

so effectively ditch all preferential rates then as to get those would inevitably have certain strings attached
mind you, all goods sold into EU would have to comply with their regs anyway


any concerns over the potential loss of the City's influence and stature as the European commercial hub across the board?

All goods sold anywhere have to conform to local standards, that's a non starter as an argument.

The city in all likelihood will depart these shores if the €uroloons get their way, so no point in including it in the pot.

However, everything else outside the above can be run to suit ourselves, and not be dictated to by Brussels.

am i correct in thinking that City-related services contribute about 20% of UK GDP?
if that is about right right (or even too low) you can't just ignore its loss!

Yes, a big chunk of gdp.

And how long do you think we will hang on to it if the €uroloons get their way?

i merely ask the questions, not provide the answers :-)

Trade with €uroland while it's still functioning (not long for that) at whatever tarrif applies...and apply the same to their goods, see who starts squealing first.