Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Just like Dave H/S is doing a sterling job and long may it continue -):

Haystack posts some very interesting points and information on this thread, but unfortunately some of his posts tend to get swamped by monotonous twaddle.

Is that Fred and Stan?

I have not for one minute suggested that. :-))

Here come the trolls.

No camps follows with buckets in attemot to clean their masters messes.

What has become of a once respectable Tor party.

I don't know who has the hardest job Hancock or Regev defending their leaders.

Asked a simple question on Europe ministers duck, dive and look shifty, and shiftier!

God the barrow boys are really in charge of the Lunatic Asylum located in No 10.

Yet for all the Tory failings the Labour party cannot (as they should be) forge ahead in the polls.
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Don't forget, that 'Chukker the Mooner' isn't speeeled with a letter 'c'.

:-)

251,

Have a look at the table the game is being played on.

Have a look at the timing.

Remember the crashing result of the 2010 and the scapegoating they were subjected to by some of the media, instead of distributing some of the blame on the financial services who were doling out the future debt.

Also, they had been in power for 13 years you would expect that those in ministerial office would be a little worn out and move on to different pastures.

It need time to form a team fit for government. (The tories haven't.)

I am surprised how well labour have held together and instead of disintegrating and appear to have reorganised and is thinking out policies from a changed in UK, EU and World politics and economics.

(The EU, M.E.. Ukraine Africa and on and on.)

This is so reminiscent of weak Labour leaders of the past. Oh how they plotted to rid the party of Brown but were too disorganised to do the deed. Labour have already lost three elections by having dead duck leaders; Foot, Kinnock and Brown. Now they are going to do it again.

What a great spectator sport it is, watching Labour imploding.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/09/labour-attacks-ed-miliband-cowardly-create-worst-all-worlds

‘Cowardly’ Labour attacks on Ed Miliband create ‘worst of all worlds’

The Labour leadership has hit back at “cowardly” attacks on Ed Miliband by anonymous MPs, warning that they will create the “worst of all worlds” in which his authority as a potential prime minister is undermined.

As senior Labour MPs revealed that at least 20 shadow ministers are prepared to call for Miliband to stand down if Alan Johnson indicates he is willing to stand for the leadership, the new shadow Cabinet Office minister Lucy Powell challenged the critics to speak publicly.

In a sign of the deep unease at senior levels of the party after four days of internal criticism, Powell told BBC Radio 5 Live: “What I would say to those people is be careful what you wish for. If … there are people that are concerned about Ed, yet don’t want a leadership contest, then what they are doing in briefing anonymously and, in my view, cowardly briefing newspapers – they are bringing about the worst of all worlds. So they need to decide what their plan is and get on with it either way.

Yakatee yak.

Exactly! Labour are all talk and no trousers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11219222/Labour-leadership-crisis-is-fuelling-wider-concerns-Ed-Miliband-cant-lead-country-new-campaign-chief-warns.html

Labour leadership crisis is fuelling wider concerns Ed Miliband can't lead country, new campaign chief warns

Lucy Powell, promoted vice-chairman of Labour's general election campaign last week, flags impact of row as she issues 'put up or shut up' call to party rebels

The leadership crisis engulfing Ed Miliband fuels a "wider concern" among voters that he is not fit to lead the country, the new vice-chairman of Labour's general election campaign says.

Lucy Powell, promoted to the role last week amid growing disquiet from Labour MPs, said the row was increasing concerns among the public that Mr Miliband could not "lead his own party, let alone the country".

I was referring to you.. Stupid boy -):

But it is still true that Labour are all talk.

Promises Promises Promises.


Tory Minister Nick Boles Says UK Can Not Control Immigration


Local prospective candidate Nicholas Boles after the Conservative Spring Forum.
Britain does not have control over immigration into the country and voters have to accept that as a member of the European Union that will always be the case, a senior Conservative minister has said.

Skills minister Nick Boles, who is on the liberal wing of the party and seen as close to David Cameron, also admitted the prime minister's pledge to crack down on inward migration was partially driven by the fear that Ukip might win the upcoming Rochester by-election.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11219285/Labour-has-missed-a-key-lesson-put-in-the-work-in-opposition-or-get-found-out.html

Labour has missed a key lesson: put in the work in opposition, or get found out

Ed Miliband is learning what it is to be a struggling leader of the opposition

Baroness Kennedy, the Labour peer, on the Andrew Marr show this morning was doing her best to suggest the Miliband crisis was some sort of conspiracy drummed up by the newspapers.:-)

If it was a newspaper conspiracy then it would have to include the Labour fan mag, the New Statesman!