Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Here come the trolls.

No camps follows with buckets in attemot to clean their masters messes.

What has become of a once respectable Tor party.

I don't know who has the hardest job Hancock or Regev defending their leaders.

Asked a simple question on Europe ministers duck, dive and look shifty, and shiftier!

God the barrow boys are really in charge of the Lunatic Asylum located in No 10.

Yet for all the Tory failings the Labour party cannot (as they should be) forge ahead in the polls.
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Don't forget, that 'Chukker the Mooner' isn't speeeled with a letter 'c'.

:-)

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Have a look at the table the game is being played on.

Have a look at the timing.

Remember the crashing result of the 2010 and the scapegoating they were subjected to by some of the media, instead of distributing some of the blame on the financial services who were doling out the future debt.

Also, they had been in power for 13 years you would expect that those in ministerial office would be a little worn out and move on to different pastures.

It need time to form a team fit for government. (The tories haven't.)

I am surprised how well labour have held together and instead of disintegrating and appear to have reorganised and is thinking out policies from a changed in UK, EU and World politics and economics.

(The EU, M.E.. Ukraine Africa and on and on.)

This is so reminiscent of weak Labour leaders of the past. Oh how they plotted to rid the party of Brown but were too disorganised to do the deed. Labour have already lost three elections by having dead duck leaders; Foot, Kinnock and Brown. Now they are going to do it again.

What a great spectator sport it is, watching Labour imploding.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/09/labour-attacks-ed-miliband-cowardly-create-worst-all-worlds

‘Cowardly’ Labour attacks on Ed Miliband create ‘worst of all worlds’

The Labour leadership has hit back at “cowardly” attacks on Ed Miliband by anonymous MPs, warning that they will create the “worst of all worlds” in which his authority as a potential prime minister is undermined.

As senior Labour MPs revealed that at least 20 shadow ministers are prepared to call for Miliband to stand down if Alan Johnson indicates he is willing to stand for the leadership, the new shadow Cabinet Office minister Lucy Powell challenged the critics to speak publicly.

In a sign of the deep unease at senior levels of the party after four days of internal criticism, Powell told BBC Radio 5 Live: “What I would say to those people is be careful what you wish for. If … there are people that are concerned about Ed, yet don’t want a leadership contest, then what they are doing in briefing anonymously and, in my view, cowardly briefing newspapers – they are bringing about the worst of all worlds. So they need to decide what their plan is and get on with it either way.

Yakatee yak.

Exactly! Labour are all talk and no trousers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11219222/Labour-leadership-crisis-is-fuelling-wider-concerns-Ed-Miliband-cant-lead-country-new-campaign-chief-warns.html

Labour leadership crisis is fuelling wider concerns Ed Miliband can't lead country, new campaign chief warns

Lucy Powell, promoted vice-chairman of Labour's general election campaign last week, flags impact of row as she issues 'put up or shut up' call to party rebels

The leadership crisis engulfing Ed Miliband fuels a "wider concern" among voters that he is not fit to lead the country, the new vice-chairman of Labour's general election campaign says.

Lucy Powell, promoted to the role last week amid growing disquiet from Labour MPs, said the row was increasing concerns among the public that Mr Miliband could not "lead his own party, let alone the country".

I was referring to you.. Stupid boy -):

But it is still true that Labour are all talk.

Promises Promises Promises.


Tory Minister Nick Boles Says UK Can Not Control Immigration


Local prospective candidate Nicholas Boles after the Conservative Spring Forum.
Britain does not have control over immigration into the country and voters have to accept that as a member of the European Union that will always be the case, a senior Conservative minister has said.

Skills minister Nick Boles, who is on the liberal wing of the party and seen as close to David Cameron, also admitted the prime minister's pledge to crack down on inward migration was partially driven by the fear that Ukip might win the upcoming Rochester by-election.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11219285/Labour-has-missed-a-key-lesson-put-in-the-work-in-opposition-or-get-found-out.html

Labour has missed a key lesson: put in the work in opposition, or get found out

Ed Miliband is learning what it is to be a struggling leader of the opposition

Baroness Kennedy, the Labour peer, on the Andrew Marr show this morning was doing her best to suggest the Miliband crisis was some sort of conspiracy drummed up by the newspapers.:-)

If it was a newspaper conspiracy then it would have to include the Labour fan mag, the New Statesman!

Haze.

You are more disconnected than your party leadership.

Are you drinking too much Schnapps.

Promises, and Lies , Promises and Lies.

And Cameron has to send a front man to be dumped upon.



George Osborne criticised for claims over EU £1.7bn bill as UK to pay full amount
Scepticism greets chancellor’s boast of halving bill to £850m as Treasury factors in automatic rebate to European Union
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George Osborne at the start of the European finance ministers’ meeting in Brussels.


George Osborne won more time to settle an outstanding and highly contested £1.7bn EU budget bill and went on to make a disputed claim that he had halved the money owed by factoring in Britain’s budget rebates in Europe.


The chancellor’s position was immediately challenged by the European commission, which made clear that the UK has long enjoyed a system of budgetary rebates, so a discount on the controversial surcharge was always going to be applied.

Osborne did succeed in persuading his European counterparts to allow the UK to pay the money in two installments by next September, delaying payment until well after the general election< /strong>.


Cash had been due by 1 December. David Cameron had loudly and repeatedly insisted he would not pay the £1.7bn demanded and flatly rejected the December deadline, after suddenly being presented with the demand during an EU summit a fortnight ago.

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No wonder they have the discredited bankers and discredited financiers and discredited fund managers financing the party funds.

They manipulate the truth in the same way, that is, by lying!

Why are politics so low and discredited in the public opinion look at the tory leadership and media backers.

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YECANNAEWHAKEM
2:07 PM on 09/11/2014
Seriously, can anyone be surprised about this? Even the most ardent Labour supporter?
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FACTS4U
1:26 PM on 09/11/2014
Is there a shadow cabinet member who will come out in support of Ed Miliband ?

Anyone . . . ?

No . . . ?

Game over Ed, their silence is deafening !
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JIM MORRISONN
11:58 AM on 09/11/2014
At least Michael Foot offered his resignation to the party secretary.
Miliband was never a leader in a million lifetimes and god knows it started badly enough running against his older and more charismatic albeit more right wing brother.
An ego the size of George Galloways
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JIM MORRISONN
11:50 AM on 09/11/2014
it's tough at the top and everybody knows Milliband isn't up to the job .
I don't know who's got the balls to knife him ,like he did to his brother ,
but it's Karma
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FUTURECHOICES
11:40 AM on 09/11/2014
Red Tory Party in total disarray and meltdown on both sides of the Border. How incredible, yet not surprising.

Labour voters in England no longer know what the party stands for. There is no vision, no imagination, no modernity, no concensus, no nothing. In Scotland, the party has been at a complete standstill since 2007. In England, the 2007 crisis with Northern Rock has rocked the confidence in the party, which has not been able to stand up and be counted ever since.

Worse, it has become a party of self-serving individuals who long ago decided to put self before party and party before people. Not only are they not electable, they are no longer trustworthy to represent the common man anywhere in the UK.

A senior figure in the party said (about the backstabbing revolt): '"There are 20 frontbenchers who are actively considering what is best to do. They are from all areas of the party, bar the hard left.' And there you have it. 'bar the hard left.' So, the more prosperous side of the Red Tories are gunning for Milipede's demise.

The people! Only the prosperous ones take the interest of the Red Tories. The rest, well, they just don't care about the rest.
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FACTS4U
11:14 AM on 09/11/2014
We are witnessing the vanity of Ed Miliband.

HE will loose the election for Labour and yet, he will not give up on HIS dream.

I'm afraid his party and the country don't share his dream . . . but the millipede will not go. He's taking the Labour Party down ! Remarkable !
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PHIL C
11:06 AM on 09/11/2014
Like flies round a turd!
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FACTS4U
10:58 AM on 09/11/2014
Alan Johnson has more integrity than to take over the Labour leadership under such circumstances.

However, Yvette Cooper, aka Mrs Balls and Andy Burnham . . . they are made of different stuff ! But are they made of Leadership Material ? They may think so . . . so did Ed Miliband !
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WOODEN SPOON FOR SALMOND
10:48 AM on 09/11/2014
Labour needs to change the voting process for electing leaders. They need to have a vote system that does not give so much say to the unions.

Because of the unions voting for Ed Miliband Labour got a leader that they did not vote for and ended up with the wrong brother.
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BUNCH OF MALCONTENT WHINGERS
10:27 AM on 09/11/2014
Until "Scottish" Labour become independent "Scottish Labour", they should be punished and punished hard in the elections.
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BONECHEWER
9:56 AM on 09/11/2014
We need Scottish Labour to be strong enough to fend off the SNP threat, but not so strong that they end up running down our country again.Things have come to a pretty pass when only our enemies can save us.
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RUSSELL MITCHELL
9:05 AM on 09/11/2014
He will only go if he is persuaded. Labour has never committed regicide. They even stuck with Kinnock when it was a hopeless contest.
Johnstone and other possible big hitters are also party men and they will not go against the party (which is the unions and they put Ed in).
I would rather live under labour than have to endure the even more left wing party - the SNP!
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SALTCOATS
8:16 AM on 09/11/2014
The labour and unionist party have commited suicide in Scotland, they done the dirty work for the tories, brown? dissapeared, darling standing down, lamont? walked before she was pushed, labour standing shoulder to shoulder with the tories will never be forgotten, I wonder if jim mouthy will stand on an irn bru crate in holyrood shouting at the scottish parliament through a p.a system?, (will he change his mind if there is a new leader?) cameron and co must be laughing their heads off at labour, they (the tories with red ties) single handedly sunk the referendum, and are going to lose the g.e, the real "best of both worlds" .....for the tories, thats what happens when you sell your soul to the devil !
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SALTCOATS
7:49 AM on 09/11/2014
"vote no......get the tories"

Lol welcome back Chris - good match?

Not really db, Everton only woke up after going one down. Still didn't get beat and every cloud above Liverpool :0)

My son just text me on his way to Wembley to see NFL Dallas Cowboys vs Jacksonville Jaguars. He is on the tube standing next to Boris Johnson. My son's friend took a hair off Boris's coat and said he is going to clone him.