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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 13 May 2011 11:33 - 5007 of 6906

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/israel-opens-its-gates-to-the-world-shuts-them-to-palestinians-1.361422

Israel opens its gates to the world, shuts them to Palestinians

The covert deportation of West Bank residents in order to increase the number of Jews in the West Bank, like the declaration of land as state land to build settlements on it, is an example of the occupations rotten fruit.

Haystack - 13 May 2011 13:32 - 5008 of 6906

Palestinian official records unveiled that the Israeli Occupation Forces have killed around 7000 Palestinian citizens in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank since 2000, the majority of them in the Gaza Strip.

A report issued by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) revealed that 7342 Palestinians were killed by the IOF between 29 September 2000 and 31 December 2010 and that by the end of the year 2009, the IOF troops killed 7235 Palestinians, 2183 in the West Bank, including 124 women, and 5015 in Gaza Strip, including 414 women.

The report also added that the year 2009 was the bloodiest year with 1219 Palestinian citizens killed at the hand of the IOF troops, followed by the year 2001 where 1192 Palestinian were killed with IOF bullets.

In 2010, the report pointed out, 107 Palestinians were killed in addition to nine Turkish human rights activists massacred on board the MV Mavi Marmara as they tried to help the besieged Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip.

Moreover, the report underscored that the IOF troops arrested nearly 750 thousand Palestinians, including 12000 women and tens of thousands of minors, leaving every Palestinian household with at least one member of it arrested.

Furthermore, the report said that around 6000 Palestinian captives were still held in Israeli jails, including tens of Arab captives, 37 female captive, 245 minors, and 181 who had been in jail for more than 20 years now.

In The Land of the B - 13 May 2011 14:27 - 5009 of 6906

You really ought to get laid, parrot.
It'll calm your frustration and hysteria down a lot.

Bernard M - 13 May 2011 14:37 - 5010 of 6906

Who gives a rat's ass.

In The Land of the B - 13 May 2011 15:19 - 5011 of 6906

He's just such a clown with his obsessions, he's funny in a sad sort of way LOL

cynic - 13 May 2011 16:20 - 5012 of 6906

Who gives a rat's arse? ..... hope you don't mind me correcting the spelling! ..... but i agree, and whatever the zealots on this thread might think, the average joe (ahmed!) in riyadh or cairo or dubai or even damascus would almost certainly also concur

Haystack - 13 May 2011 17:09 - 5013 of 6906

On Friday that more than a million Arab people rallied on Friday in support of the Palestinian cause in Palestine and a number of Arab countries.

Our correspondents reported that the largest such rally was the one held at the Tahrir Square in the Egyptian capital Cairo.

Participants in the Tahrir Square rally started gathering there before dawn and the rally culminated at the Friday prayers in the afternoon. Participants called for opening the Rafah crossing, and called on the Palestinian resistance not give up armed resistance. They called for Egyptian national unity and not to fall in the trap of those who are trying to sow discord between the Muslims and the Christians.

Similarly, huge demonstrations took place in Lebanon and Jordan to mark the Palestinian Nakba (catastrophe) in 1948 when Israel was created for immigrants from Europe who uprooted the indigenous Palestinians from their land and destroyed around 450 Palestinian villages in the process.

In the West Bank, the IOF was on high alert and carried out numerous arrests to try and prevent any rallies marking the 63rd anniversary of the Nakba.

In occupied Jerusalem, IOF troops took stern measures to prevent large numbers from reaching the Aqsa Mosque by preventing Palestinian people under the age of 45 years from passing through roadblocks on their way to the Aqsa Mosque.

The Israeli occupation premier, Benjamin Netanyahu has ordered that all possible measures should be taken to prevent the marking of the anniversary by Palestinians.

Meanwhile, Palestinians in 1948-occupied Palestine, marked the Nakba anniversary at the same time the Israelis marked what they call independence. Activities marking the anniversary will continue.

Marches towards the borders of occupied Palestine will take place on Sunday prompting fears of the occupation government that matters can get out of control.

The Israeli occupation asked the PA and its president Mahmoud Abbas to control the Nakba marches that Palestinians intend to hold.

The 63rd anniversary of the Nakba came at a time in which great changes are taking place in the Arab world rekindling hope for Palestinian refugees that their return to the homes they were thrown out of is getting closer.

cynic - 13 May 2011 17:28 - 5014 of 6906

and MG has had several massive popular rallies of late too!

Haystack - 14 May 2011 10:28 - 5015 of 6906

Turkish premier Recep Erdogan has renewed his belief that Hamas was not a terrorist organization but rather a political party with official and popular legitimacy.

He said in an interview with the American CBS TV network on Thursday night that Hamas was defending its occupied country and has won elections on an anti occupation agenda.

Erdogan said he was pleased the Palestinians signed a reconciliation agreement, adding that this was what his country had been working for, for years.

The Turkish premier explained that his country had exerted big efforts toward that end.

Haystack - 14 May 2011 18:04 - 5016 of 6906

Violent clashes broke out at noon Saturday between Israeli troops and Palestinians marching in the funeral procession of the 16-year-old boy, Milad Ayash, who was shot by an Israeli soldier yesterday and succumbed to his wounds at dawn today.

Two Palestinians were injured with rubber bullets when the troops attacked the procession as it was heading to Bab Al-Rahma cemetery for burial.

Ayyash was considered the first martyr in the third intifada (uprising), which activists were trying to ignite as of Friday.

The Israeli police and army were put on high alert after Palestinian youth groups announced intention to organize events and marches on the 63rd anniversary of Palestine Nakba.

aldwickk - 14 May 2011 19:59 - 5017 of 6906

I think Haystack is " Doing a Fred " and winding you lot up.

cynic - 15 May 2011 07:42 - 5018 of 6906

i think he just likes the monologue

Bernard M - 15 May 2011 11:47 - 5019 of 6906

Most Uk people don't give a shit about Israel, Libia, and the rest of them.

Haystack - 15 May 2011 14:33 - 5020 of 6906

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13373006

Israeli forces have fired on groups of protesters at borders with the Palestinian territories, Syria and Lebanon.

Unconfirmed reports say several people have died, and dozens have been injured.

In one incident, thousands of Palestinian supporters from Syria entered the Golan Heights, Israel says.

Palestinians are marking the Nakba or Catastrophe, their term for the founding of the Israeli state in 1948.

Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled or were forced out of their homes in fighting after its creation.

Impetus

Clashes have been taking place at four separate border crossing points - in Gaza, the West Bank, the Golan Heights and the frontier with Lebanon.

The BBC's Jon Donnison, in the West Bank town of Ramallah, said this year's Nakba protests have been given impetus by the uprisings in countries across the Middle East and North Africa.

Continue reading the main story

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We are seeing here an Iranian provocation, on both the Syrian and the Lebanese frontiers, to try to exploit the Nakba day commemorations
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Brig Gen Yoav Mordechai

Israeli army

In pictures: Palestinian rallies
Our correspondent, at the Qalandiya checkpoint there, says there is a stand-off now, but dozens of Palestinians have been injured.

Palestinian protesters have been throwing stones at Israeli security forces, who have been firing tear gas and rubber bullets.

On the occupied Golan Heights, the Israeli military said it had only fired warning shots as a large number of protesters tried to breach a border fence near the village of Majdal Shams.

But unconfirmed reports said four people had been killed and at least 10 people injured.

Israel's army says this is a "serious" incursion. Brig Gen Yoav Mordechai said soldiers were still trying to control the crowds and that dozens of protesters had crossed.

The army has reportedly sealed off Majdal Shams and is carrying out house-to-house searches for infiltrators.

Israeli seized the strategic territory from Syria in 1967.

On the Lebanon-Israel border, a large number of protesters also approached the crossing with Israel.

Dozens of buses had brought protesters to the area under the rally slogan of "March for the return to Palestine".

On the Israel-Gaza frontier, at the Erez border crossing, Israeli troops opened fire with tanks and machine guns, injuring dozens, Palestinian medical officials said.

Haystack - 15 May 2011 14:33 - 5021 of 6906

IOF troops open fire at peaceful protestors marking the Nakba: 60 Palestinians wounded in Beit Hanoun, Gaza**150 injured at the Qalandia roadblock and a number of protesters arrested by under-cover IOF soldiers**5 Killed in south Lebanon and 30 wounded**4 killed in the Golan Heights and the IOF declare Majdal-Shams a military Zone after a number of refugees managed to breach the border fence.

In The Land of the B - 15 May 2011 21:58 - 5022 of 6906

What do you expect, parrot? We all know you find this orgasmic, but try a mass invasion across a border, ignore the warning shots over the heads, and you are going to end up DEAD, VERY DEAD.
Actually, armchair warrior parrot, get off your perch and go out and try it for yourself LOL
Be a martyr, be a shahid, give us all a big laugh

cynic - 15 May 2011 22:02 - 5023 of 6906

not in syria - you don't have to cross the border

Haystack - 15 May 2011 23:29 - 5024 of 6906

An 18-year old Palestinian young man was shot dead at noon Sunday east of Gaza city in Shujaiya district.

90 other citizens, mostly children, also sustained different injuries when the Israeli occupation forces (IOF) opened intensive fire and shelled a peaceful march held on the nakba anniversary near Beit Hanoun crossing.

Doctors said most of these citizens were moderately wounded and one of them is in critical condition.

A reporter for the Palestinian information center (PIC) said the IOF fired five artillery shells and machine guns at the march which led to this number of casualties, while ambulances rushed to the scene to transfer the wounded to hospitals.

Thousands of Palestinians participated in this peaceful march and raised Palestinian flags and symbolic keys to indicate their determination to return to their homes in the 1948 occupied lands. Dozens of Italian peace activists were also in the march.

Haystack - 15 May 2011 23:35 - 5025 of 6906

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=220668

Jerusalem Post

'Shooting at Syrian protesters may violate int'l law'

Expert says details surrounding Nakba Day infiltration of border still unknown, but Israel will have to explain its actions.

Dr. Daphne Richmond-Barak, an expert in international law from the Herzliya Interdisciplinary Center, said Sunday that the breach of the Israeli border by Syrian protesters was an unprecedented act in modern history and a clear violation of Israeli sovereignty as determined by article 51 of the United Nations Charter.

At the same time, she said, firing on civilians was also a breach of international law and that once the details of the event were made clear, it would be required of Israel to explain its actions.

"If we were talking about tanks and soldiers, there would be no question about Israel's right to shoot as an act of protecting its sovereignty. This case however is different," said Richmond-Barak. In this case, there may have been other options open to the soldiers, like arresting or stopping the protesters in less violent ways.

The laws of war are not the appropriate frame work for judging the events in the north. We are not talking about an attack by an invading army. It would be more appropriate to look to the USs actions against Mexican infiltrators on its southern border to learn about legitimate use of force, said Professor Asa Kasher, one of the authors of the IDFs code of ethics.

yuff - 16 May 2011 15:34 - 5026 of 6906

Dont preach here hay-pass your message on to Gadaffi and at the same time to Bashir Assad-both bloodthirsty leaders of totally corrupt nations.

And why you continue to believe Palestinian news reports simply amazes me. Have you not yet learned that these reports are so inflated with over zealous rhetoric that you simply cannot believe a word that they report??
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