Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

On the other hand Holland has one of the highest tax rates in the world and most don't seem to mind. Perhaps the term "cheesehead" or "kaaskop" comes from their willingness to pay what is decreed.
For my sins, I had to attend company meetings in the Hague for a while. Cars in Holland are more expensive than in neighbouring Germany. Having just collected a 4x4 from Japan in Holland, I asked why they didn't just go across the border to buy but they wouldn't think of it. Maybe being so tall, they suffer from lack of oxygen to the brain or maybe they actually support the system.

and much expensive that in belgium
bring in a car from beligium (or germany presumably) to nl, and there is thumping import duty ...... a further example of free trade within the eurozone????

Fred we voted OUT ! don't you just love it ,now get down on your knees and thank Nigel Farage he just saved your ass.

Corbyn a quiet, honest and decent man, well he certainly proved that to be totally inaccurate, what a prat.
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Dumbo.

Are you a signed up members of Trump's gang?

There should be opportunities there.

The UK's exit from the EU is being watered down every day.

While May's boys Boris, Foxy and Davies and the Fish and crew realise the possible effects they will be running from the field like your icon or barrow boy Farage and the rest of the Motley gang are running for the hills.

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(This story reminded me of you.)

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A Welshman, Scot and a Little Englander are walking when they come across a lantern and a genie pops out and offers to grant them one wish each.

The Welshman says: “I am a sheep herder, like my dad before me. I want my country to be full of lovely sheep farms.” Whoosh, and so it was.

The Little Englander was amazed and asked: “I want a wall around England to keep those damned Scots and Welsh out.” Bang, there was a wall around England.

The Scot says: “Tell me more about this wall.”

The genie says: “It’s 200 feet high, 100 feet thick, it goes all around England, and nothing can get in or out.”

The Scot says: “Fill it with water.”

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I have one problem.

I am an immigrant to England.

215.

Now you have spilt your bile, exactly what Corbyn's policies do you disagree with the most?

This is no time for jokes Freda , this is serious man .

Fred go back to sleep you havn't a clue ,even to the meaning of little Englander ,i posted it for you once before ,remember ?

Funny how he lumps me in with Trump just because i like Farage and as for Barrow boy i think Nigel is a lot smarter than you Fred.

i didn't listen to farage's speech supporting trump, but it certainly worries me that he did so

derF, there are many which I disagree with but you ask, which do I disagree with the most, so it has to be the fact that despite a government's primary aim to keep it's citizens safe he is prepared to do absolutely diddley squat to defend us, even if the country was about to be nuked. Fortunately he will never be in such a position.

Barrow boys, didn't that staunch Labour supporter/contributor and 'Remain' supporter Alan Sugar start out as a barrow boy?
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When i saw Farage on youtube he said he was not there to support Trump ,he did say however that Clinton would be a disaster ,maybe that has changed i don't know .

That's rich Fred calling someone a barrow boy, he picks and chooses which working classes he likes for instance he hates travellers but loves immigrants even the roma gypsies with 10 kids milking our housing benefit .

at least the romas are a true ethnic minority - and indeed have been persecuted across europe for generations
on the other hand, the crook gypsy "travellers" - usually irish - who have attached themselves to the roma bandwagon, are a blight

Your missing the point ,Fred's meant to love everyone .

i don't care what fred thinks; i was merely making a comment about the blight of the so-called irish travellers - aka pikeys

Weren't the Jews persecuted for generations?

From Wikipedia re Irish Travellers, maybe the so-called is uncalled for :) Most is speculatation - who knows? :

The historical origins of Irish Travellers as an ethnic group has been a subject of academic and popular debate. Such discussions have been difficult as Irish Travellers left no written records of their own. They may be of Romani extraction, although this theory is disputed and theories of pre-Celt origin also exist. Jean-Pierre Liégeois (fr) wrote that the Irish Traveller Gammon vocabulary is derived from pre-13th-century Celtic idioms with ten percent Indian origin Romani language vocabulary. Celtic language expert Kuno Meyer and Romani language linguist John Sampson both asserted that Shelta existed as far back as the 13th century, 300 years before the first Romani populations arrived on the island of Britain.
Their origin is genetically Irish, with around 10,000 people in the United States being descendants of Travellers who left Ireland, mostly during the period between 1845 and 1860 during the Great Famine. About 2,500 of them live in Murphy Village, a community outside North Augusta, South Carolina.
In 2011 an analysis of DNA from 40 Travellers was undertaken at the Royal College of Surgeons in Dublin and the University of Edinburgh. The study provided evidence that Irish Travellers are a distinct Irish ethnic minority, who separated from the settled Irish community at least 1000 years ago; the claim was made that they are as distinct from the settled community as Icelanders are from Norwegians. Irish Travellers "left no written record of their own" and their families do not date back to the same point in time; some families adopted Traveller customs centuries ago, while others did so more recently. It is unclear how many Irish Travellers would be included in this distinct ethnic group at least from a genetic perspective.
Among other speculation on their origins, "two theories are rejected outright": that they were descended from those Irish who were made homeless by Oliver Cromwell's military campaign in Ireland in the 1650s, or made homeless in the 1840s famine due to eviction. Other speculation includes that they are the descendants of the aristocratic nomads of the Clan Murtagh O'Connors in the Late Middle Ages. Their nomadism was based on cattle-herds or creaghts.

cynic(5021). Thats what they call jumping on the liberal lefty media bandwagon, (brainwashed),and people SHOULD really find out the true facts.

Nigel Farage didn't endorse D.Trump..His speech was about the underdog
triumphing against the big business and the establishment and the liberal
left media..

Appearing on stage with Trump is endorsing him. Naive to think otherwise.

Trump is bad and Clinton is badder... :) It is like rating Corbyn and Smith. I pity the US electorate. Choose between a nutter and a habitual liar.