Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

But Shortie, Cameron is a passionate man and cares for you.

With a man of his integrity you would be safe walking down a dark alley at night.



Especially, if you were behind him with a gun in his back and your hand on the trigger.


Now that leaves the problem of Osborne who doesn't like having his figures questioned.

Mind he is losing a bit of his thatching.

Perhaps, by the time of the election he may be as bald as his estimates are!

Shortie is our hero. shortie is our here hero.

Shortie - 05 Dec 2014 16:03 - 52268 of 52272

Personally I don't trust Cameron to give us a referendum so can't vote for him.

but you can trust labour NOT to ..... great choice there

HMRC vs Ingenious
http://www.screendaily.com/news/ingenious-court-case-what-lies-ahead/5079356.article

the above link makes a most interesting read, though it dates back to mid November

a minuscule excerpt reads .....
The case is expected to last well into December. It will then take months for a decision to be handed down and whichever side loses is likely to appeal.

i don't know whether the hearing is being heard "in camera" but i can't find anything more recent

repeat.......

Hey Cyners lad, get up to date, its all here........

your on the wrong track bud.........

Your mates were wrong, HMRC won on the timing and PRESS issue.............

http://www.investorcentral.co.uk/news

MOST OF THE DEFENDANTS HAVE ALREADY PAID THERE TAXES DUE.

GARY BARLOW CERTAINLY AS.

thanks old chap, but in fact that link gives no news later than what i posted

that defendants have paid up is no admission of any wrong-doing at all, but if this case is going to drag on and on and on and on as seems likely, then i'ld guess it becomes a matter of risk/reward for the defendants

i don't know what happens to the money already paid if HMRC ends up losing, but my guess is that it'll be "hard luck old chap"

from what little i have read, Ingenious backed a good number of films which achieved box office success ..... is that relevant to the issue? ..... i really don't know, but at least it shows the core investment biz was not just a sham

Good point Cyners but I always look upon tax as a MORAL issue.

The cheats have been caught and have payed back.

Thats fine with me.

they're not cheats you tosspot :-)

unless i'm much mistaken, Ingenious was set up probably 10 years ago with guidance from HMRC and also the encouragement of gov't that wanted to promote investment in films .... the inducement for this was assorted tax breaks

as for tax being a moral issue ....... !!!!!
the tax man has no morals at all ...... just as you are more than happy to take what tax breaks and benefits you feel are yours as of right, so this case as far as i can see, is actually little different

it may be that the law lords, for whatever reason will take a different view, but clearly it is a very unclear situation that is likely to be appealed a few times over

They are cheats and the tax man is a cheat aswel in your personal case.

But unfortunately in society we have certain laws which we have to stick to or society would break down.

Now stop gobbing and get my tea in the oven.

Why do folk oop north call dinner, tea?

Because we are poor.

We dont have the means to afford both a late tea and an evening dinner.

Or is it an High tea???????

The ones who have paid will likely appeal if the case goes against HMRC and claim interest for the intervening period as is their right. It looks like HMRC are wrong in this case and hopefully will get a bloody nose.

lol gf :-)

Actually, it would be a high tea, not an high tea!

Where is the grammar police when we need him.

Come back Kayak!

Stop talking sh-te Hays.

It will be at least 2020 before this is sorted.

Do you really think the government of the day will accept a defeat.

Dream on man.

In your case Hays does it matter, your high ALL DAY.

Snorter Osbourne comes to mind.