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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 17:44 - 52277 of 81564

Good point Cyners but I always look upon tax as a MORAL issue.

The cheats have been caught and have payed back.

Thats fine with me.

cynic - 05 Dec 2014 17:51 - 52278 of 81564

they're not cheats you tosspot :-)

unless i'm much mistaken, Ingenious was set up probably 10 years ago with guidance from HMRC and also the encouragement of gov't that wanted to promote investment in films .... the inducement for this was assorted tax breaks

as for tax being a moral issue ....... !!!!!
the tax man has no morals at all ...... just as you are more than happy to take what tax breaks and benefits you feel are yours as of right, so this case as far as i can see, is actually little different

it may be that the law lords, for whatever reason will take a different view, but clearly it is a very unclear situation that is likely to be appealed a few times over

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 17:58 - 52279 of 81564

They are cheats and the tax man is a cheat aswel in your personal case.

But unfortunately in society we have certain laws which we have to stick to or society would break down.

Now stop gobbing and get my tea in the oven.

MaxK - 05 Dec 2014 18:07 - 52280 of 81564

Why do folk oop north call dinner, tea?

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 18:10 - 52281 of 81564

Because we are poor.

We dont have the means to afford both a late tea and an evening dinner.

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 18:12 - 52282 of 81564

Or is it an High tea???????

Haystack - 05 Dec 2014 18:12 - 52283 of 81564

The ones who have paid will likely appeal if the case goes against HMRC and claim interest for the intervening period as is their right. It looks like HMRC are wrong in this case and hopefully will get a bloody nose.

MaxK - 05 Dec 2014 18:14 - 52284 of 81564

lol gf :-)

Haystack - 05 Dec 2014 18:16 - 52285 of 81564

Actually, it would be a high tea, not an high tea!

Haystack - 05 Dec 2014 18:17 - 52286 of 81564

Where is the grammar police when we need him.

Come back Kayak!

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 18:18 - 52287 of 81564

Stop talking sh-te Hays.

It will be at least 2020 before this is sorted.

Do you really think the government of the day will accept a defeat.

Dream on man.

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 18:19 - 52288 of 81564

In your case Hays does it matter, your high ALL DAY.

Snorter Osbourne comes to mind.

cynic - 05 Dec 2014 18:20 - 52289 of 81564

sticky - you know a bit more than the rest of us about the workings of HMRC ..... will those who have paid up be reimbursed if the case goes against HMRC, or will they have had to sign away all rights?

no argument about the legal obligation to pay taxes - render unto Caesar etc etc - but in this particular case, it is (suddenly?) not clear at all who has God on their side

cynic - 05 Dec 2014 18:21 - 52290 of 81564

well hays, it's assuredly an historical novel, so why would an high tea be a grammatical inexactitude, for both have aspirated aitches?

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 18:25 - 52291 of 81564

They will get paid back with the official inflation rate for the year at the end of Sept in each year of indebtedness.

goldfinger - 05 Dec 2014 18:27 - 52292 of 81564

Hes still at it, going very strong. got to admire his stamina..........

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Fred1new - 05 Dec 2014 18:36 - 52293 of 81564

Max,

Tea!

Possibly, when the morning shifts from pits or heavy industries, got home and also, the food was eaten with tea.

It was a cooked meal at the end of the working day.

Followed, by a light supper.


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High tea from distant memory was a cooked light meal tea of some form.

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Could be wrong, but it was part of my childhood.

cynic - 05 Dec 2014 18:37 - 52294 of 81564

in that case, no point in not paying up now assuming it doesn't cripple through other problems

ExecLine - 05 Dec 2014 18:41 - 52295 of 81564

Ever used Wikipedia?

Did you know it is a non-profit charitable organisation that exists only through charitable donations?

If you want to help and give them a few quid, here's a link:

https://donate.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:FundraiserLandingPage&country=GB&uselang=en&utm_medium=spontaneous&utm_source=fr-redir&utm_campaign=spontaneous

I've just done a small donation using PayPal. The whole thing took me less than 30 seconds.

cynic - 05 Dec 2014 18:47 - 52296 of 81564

youch! would never use paypal
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