Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

"I think the results of the referendum represented general disillusionment
and frustration and wanting to hold others responsible for their own problems,
rather than understanding the workings, aims, and benefits of being in the EU"

Please enlighten us all on these workings, aims, and benefits...And what are..
"hold others responsible for their own problems".....Who caused these problems
that we don't want to take responsibility for?..


Please give us THREE reasons why we should('ve) remain in the EU, because if
we had remained in the EU, then there would NOT have been any reforms, the
EU would've had no compunction to do so, in fact they would have gone cart'blance
on further integration...WILL YOU PRO-EU FANATICS GET THAT??...FOOLS!!

GB - you can't ask fred to answer a question and then give him certain responses that he mustn't use because you (rabidly) disagree!
and just because you are a rabid brexiter, it does not not mean that those who wished to remain were lacking in grey matter and powers of analysis and due consideration

indeed, your labelling of people being fools can apply equally to the rabids on either side

Yes he can cynic , why does Fred start every response to my posts with Dumbo ? i have a view does that make me a fool , in Fred's arrogant eyes it does .

can't help what fred calls you :-)

Fish Face !!!

Now children, this is getting like a Corbyn v Smith debate. :-)

Well at least i can give numerous reasons we should LEAVE, unlike the
remainers who can't give one, except to say 'more in hope' then reality,
that if we'd stayed in we could've drove reform from the inside..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!...

Reminds me of a hungry man looking across a moat at a castle with its drawbridge up where a party is being held and wondering if he can swim across to the other side, and wondering to himself, whether they will hear him if he knocks on the walls.

But as he has done similar before, he also wonders whether they will find it too much bother and ignore him, especially when he was always grumbling at the rules hoping he could break their parties up.

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Patience he says to himself, with hope, I will go and eat in somebody else's garden.

They will either welcome or rob me.

Seeing as the UK import more from the EU then we export to them, its
them that's robbing us, and them that's gatecrashing our party!

very 1001 Nights fred

Great story Fred but we aint hungry but plenty at the party are.

No intentions of working and growing his own...


"Patience he says to himself, with hope, I will go and eat in somebody else's garden."

Take it by % of import and export for each country!

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Dil,

Why do we have food banks?

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Anyway, border folks feed off both sides of the borders.

There we go Fred we look after our own while the government is forced to subsidise half of Europe thanks to our EU membership.

And the chest pumping by the Irish PM about no special deal for the UK is laughable as he was the first one of the EU leaders to get the begging bowl out when we voted out as they would be hit hardest without a trade deal. What a clown.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37359196

EU state of the union: Juncker warns UK on single market
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Jean-Claude Juncker
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Mr Juncker spoke out against attacks on Polish immigrants in Essex
EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has begun his first State of the Union address since the UK's unexpected vote to leave the bloc.

He warned the UK that access to the internal market relied on the free movement of people. There could be no "a la carte access", he said.
Mr Juncker is aiming to rally the 27 countries staying in the EU to the challenges of migration and security.
The EU was not "at risk" from Brexit, he insisted.

But splits had led to "galloping populism" and Europe had to be protected from them.
In a blunt criticism of recent attacks on immigrants in the UK, he said he would "never accept Polish workers being beaten up and harassed on the streets of Essex".

fair comment about the poles in essex, but what about the treatment of pieds noirs in france or other minorities in germany and elsewhere ...... known as deflection politics :-)

Who cares what that drunk old idiot says , all he has done throughout this summer is threaten the UK.

Very selective on these issues aren't you Freda , what about the crime committed by so called immigrants ,one Romanian jailed for raping a drunken girl in a portaloo in city centre , he said he thought British girls were dying for it . another couple jailed for trying to steal £10,000 grand in scam from OAP in city , they were Romanians , Monday night 21 year old raped in Park . They have caught him but not released name yet but .

Just remember Fred Hates Britain .

He's a very sad individual jimmy and quite deceptive too , that's putting it mildly .