for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

Just to pre-empt the posting by insiderinside claiming Greenseal only does 'cut to remove' lids.

insiderinside is lying as usual

These lies have been posted by insiderinside over and over again, here and every Stanelco discussion board

Greenseal can create cold or hot peel lids, adjustable right up to cut-to-remove lids.

RF can create these different types of lid much better than heat sealing, because it is adjustable to very fine increments.

The questions was - In the Asda Salmon trials - were the Salmon packets Cut To Open type with RF welding - and did those new packages have NEW on the front (with instructions to cut to open and not peel).

If its true it would pose many questions on the extended life and increase in sales with it having NEW on the front - and also having an IMO customer unfriendly cut to open lid - taking more time to open and potentially shreds of plastic from the scissor cut getting into the food.

So - did those Asda Salmon trials have Cut to Open lids - and was there a NEW on the front of the packets ?????

insiderinside - 04 Jun'05 - 16:12 - 5290 of 5290 (Filtered)

Why are postings here now such crap. If you know something fair play,post and prove. If its an opinion say so. If you have a gut feeling say so. If you don't know ask. Otherwise do the right thing and F!!K OFF

paulmasterson1 - 04 Jun'05 - 16:34 - 5291 (Filtered)

jaysus can`t everybody filter this twat , and get a normal persons view of the co.

geddoutahere you wallie!!!

Now lets hear it- it might go UP if the news is good- repeat- ad infinitum!!!!!!!!

Sambal Hi,

insiderinside know NOTHING, just tries to scaremonger within the rules of the BB, steps very close to the line, but at the end of the day is simply a basher with a short on SEO, taken out at 15p, and getting very worried.

Filtering the liar is the right way to go.

Cheers,
PM

Paul - LOL - as has been said over a hundred times before - I have no short on SEO.


Perhaps Asda should concentrate on their core business and not fanciful dreams of new welded seals - they appear to be struggling for all the hype they are getting in the media from Cut to Open Salman - Funnily enough since all this hype about sealing - I do not shop at Asda any more and use Tesco - which is IMO - far better quality - but each to their own.


http://www.moneyam.com/action/news/showArticle?id=813191

Tesco & Sainsbury growth hits Asda
MoneyAM
Asda has continued to see its market share squeezed by sales growth at rivals Tesco and Sainsbury's.

The latest figures from TNS show that in the 12 weeks to May 22nd, Sainsbury's continued on a positive trend, with its share lifting from 15.5% a year ago to 15.9%. This translates into real turnover growth of 5%, a further sign that the recovery prgramme at Sainsbury's is on solid ground.
Tesco's market share reached 29.9% across the 12 weeks, and in the four weeks to May 22nd passed the 30% barrier, taking 30.3% of UK supermarket grocery shopping.
Asda repeated the decline first seen in last month's TNS figures. The Wal-Mart owned supermarket chain's share is down from 16.6% in 2004 to 16.5% year-on-year.
The Financial Times reports that Andy Bond, Asda CEO, is reinforcing his management team with the return of former logistics director David Cheesewright, who moved from Asda to run Wal-Mart's Canadian business last year.
The combined Morrisons / Safeway share continues to decline, down to 12%, although TNS believes the figures suggest the fall is levelling off. Edward Garner, communications director of TNS Superpanel, said: "It should be remembered that much of this decline is due to fascia changes as Safeway stores are sold off in response to the Competition Commission stipulations and, more recently, the smaller stores that have been sold to Somerfield."
Waitrose continued its strong run as it benefits from the Safeway stores acquired last year, with its share up year-on-year from 3.25 to 3.7%, a turnover increase of 19%.

Share of UK Grocery Market: 12 weeks to May 22nd

Tesco 29.9%
Asda 16.5%
Sainsbury's 15.9%
Morrisons/Safeway 12%
Somerfield/Kwik Save 5.9%
Co-ops 4.7%
Waitrose 3.7%
Aldi 2.1%
Iceland 1.9%
Lidl 1.8%
Netto 0.7%

A few more research links on tray lidding -

APT look good no waste no leaks
http://www.aptechnologies.com/faq.html

ALX look good to and say sealed trays are 100% leak proof
http://www.alxmetall.de/english/backofen.php

Orics are a company that knows about sealing trays have a look
http://www.orics.com/index.htm

Want to know about lidding films Dupont
http://ad-banners.com/dupont/table.html

Alert seem quite alert on tray lidding and packaging
http://www.industrypackaging.com/packaging/europe/alert_packaging/flexible_printed_film/9_0/g_supplier.html

Koch know all about it
http://www.kochequipment.com/map/traysealer_008.htm

Want some Vision
http://www.mpiaust.com.au/products/autohighsealing.htm

A patent on new types of lidding
http://www.freshpatents.com/Peelable-polyester-film-with-self-venting-process-for-its-production-and-its-use-dt20050512ptan20050100750.php

Want to treat your bakery goods to APET non welded secure sealing
http://www.genpak.com/pdf/cpetapet.pdf

Peelable films Mitsubishi for info
http://www.m-petfilm.com/Europe/Peelable_Film.aspx

Do not forget some of the world leaders on tray lidding
Cryovac Sealed Air
http://www.cryovac.com/products/food/default.html

and Multivac
http://www.multivac.com/index_international_ex.html

A few links on biodegradable packaging -

Want to know about Biodegradable plastics and thermoformed trays
http://www.deh.gov.au/industry/waste/biodegradable/chapter3.html

This company knows about making Eco-trays and the like
http://www.papercoaters.co.nz/trays.htm

Vertex know about this
http://www.vertex-pacific.co.nz/body.cfm?PageID=221&Parent=0

Sainsbury and their biodegradable trays since 2001
http://www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/index.asp?PageID=19&subsection=&Year=2001&NewsID=117

Plantic have been doing thermoformed biodegradable trays for a long time already
http://www.plantic.com.au/

Potato based food packaging ?
http://www.potatoplates.com/static.pasp?staticid=4

Biosphere
http://www.industrialnewsupdate.com/news/food-processing/archives/2005/01/biosphere_indus.php

Novamont seem pretty up to date on this
http://www.materbi.com/

Seems old hat this biodegradable thermoformed tray thing - perhaps why this is not mentioned so often as a jam tomorrow back up route.

fantastic!!! should be a good week next week!!!

Whats coming tomorrow and this week - well IMO no RNS on Monday - cannot see them having anything except a super discount price sale of 1 machine in the US or a free trial machine in the US - or perhaps an order for a couple more machines - not really worthy of an RNS - they may have decided with the price well over what it should be to let it ride in with the bears to interim reporting - they know that quite of lot of aspects of the city will tear their interims to pieces - even EVO downgraded from Buy to Add recently (yes - you know whats next a quick blip at hold and the sell perhaps) - so they may now let it free ride to interims and let those who exit first get the best profits - who knows - perhaps they will try one more pump up before interim loss reporting - perhaps its no news now until after the interims have been mauled by the city - we shall see.

Morning Bos,

No idea what he is saying, been filtered a long time. Hope his short is still open. Hopefully another week of consolidation, still sticking with June 14 for the next major leg up.

pth

Can't see any good news here for quite some time yet guys. Certainly not this month. Nobody quite seems to know what is going on and confusion seems to be all over the place of late. Everyone is seeking information but none comes. A friend tells me it may even be next year before we can realistically hope to see some movement. I've stuck with it for a long time but am seriously thinking of selling and moving on. Helpful comments from serious posters are invited.

Mr Pod that's a good idea take the money.

Sambal/Mr Pod, The problem here is impatience and so many speculators now on this "Investor" thread. The other problem is that those not in the know CAN post absolute and utter crap dressed up as opinion and it is OK. Those involved with any of this and with some actual information CANNOT put what they know on here otherwise they could be in breach of confidentialities. It would also aggrevate further volatile share price movement if folk in the packaging industry posted on here actual info that they came across, know what I mean!!
All I can say is that I am holding on to these AND if the bears/shorters have another crack, I will buy some more.
Unless you are a trader making a quick buck on up/down swings or you have met your own targets or have need for the dosh, selling SEO now, in its infancy of developing into a worldclass packaging technology company could be a bad decision. The potential of many things they are working on (not just RF) is so big its worth having in anyones portfolio, certainly less risky than oil/gold exploration!!

Mr Pod - if you want to make money - sell on the highs and buy on the lows - others will tell you to keep holding - that serves their own purpose of buying and selling and trading the stock - too many sellers and the price crashes - a few sells and a few buys - gives it the up and down enough to make their trading worthwhile. Make your own mind up - but remember - a profit is only a profit when converted to cash !!

The bulls and rampers have gone quiet - this may mean no news now until after interims are ripped to pieces in the city - they had an increased loss from 2003 to 2004 and looks like a further increased loss 2004 to 2005. I would say take profits - why not - you can buy back in any time you want - July might be worth a look depending on how many machines they get ordered between now and then - they need over 75 by October 31st 2004 to stand any chance of not making another loss at final results in Feb 2006. (The pump and dump crew will say no - keep holding - you might miss the big jump - but if this is going to do like they say - there is plenty of chance to get back on board and everyone - even RHPS - says this is high risk - meaning it can crash as fast as it could climb - so why not covert paper profit to real profit cash in hand and review in July perhaps ?)

This stock has just been ramped and pumped up IMO - and now lots of people in it - who know the fundamentals are terrible - but still believing the dream as they want money for nothing.

If I were holding now I would take profits - in cash - and see whats happening later in July - thats just IMO - your decision is your own.

andysmith, thank you!! at last, a post worth reading!! it's like an oasis of clear blue water in a desert of shite! long term holders have seen all this before, the spurt upwards, the retracment, the consolidation at new levels, the panic from those who bought at the top of the spurt and the doom and gloom merchants . i would suggest people go back and re-read what ii was saying when he started posting, have a look what the price was, check his predictions and soothsaying, then see if he has been correct about anything. i would but i cannot be arsed. have a good day!

Mr Pod,

Have you ever posted here before ?

How many SEO do you own ?

Are you another ii or other basher alias ?

I am just wondering, becuase what you have posted I have seen the EXACT words posted by bashers many times before.

FACTS ....

ii is a liar.
ASDA deal is now COMMERCIAL.
When the Salad Trials are completed, expect NEWS(no, NOT next year)including an update of the number of machines now in the pot.
Stanelco are in talks with the SIX biggest USA retailers, and deals will come THIS YEAR, NOT next year.
Stanelco are agrressively target marketing FrogPack, and EVO say a deal within weeks if not months, NOT next year.
I know what is going on, and I see no confusion ANYWHERE.
I get information, I just e-mail HQ.

The facts are in the press, and on packaging websites, that Greenseal benefits apply to cold or hot peel lids, as well as cut to remove. ii(idiotinside) is trying to scare shareholders into selling, hoping that he can force a price drop, ii is a low-life sick loser, who spends day and night bashing Stanelco, 'get a life' is an understatement.

"Stanelco's RF packaging technology will provide a number of benefits for both ASDA and the consumer, including:"

-- Increased sales

-- Reduced waste

-- Longer shelf life

-- Cost reductions on packaging materials

-- Energy and labor savings

-- Extensive environmental benefits



Cheers,
PM

Stanelco is already moving ahead to market GREENSEAL to leading U.S. grocers and retailers, including Wal-Mart, Albertson's, Midwestern retailing giant Kroger's, California-based Von's, Ralph's and Safeway, and others. Stanelco has opened a North American office in Orlando, Fla., to coordinate international sales and implementation efforts for Stanelco


Stephanie Morgan-Fisher, Director of Stanelco's North American Operations said, "The UK conversion marks the beginning of a revolution in packaging. This is the first machine of ASDA's 200-machine commitment in the United Kingdom. We are aggressively marketing this technology in North America simultaneously and expect to announce our first agreement for conversions in the United States and Canada in the near future."

Well, well - just back from a week's sailing with no internet and hardly any mobile phone. SEO continues to sit just where you'd expect it to whilst waiting for the next piece of serious news. Feel very happy to be holdihng for the long term.

Now, in the interests of sanity - after 244 posts of moreorless unmitigated crap (except the odd gems from the usual few) - I'm going to filter myself, a sort of on-thread hari kari.

Aaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Dead Dog