What's a forum without people posting, some friendly banter and opposing views. By MAMs decision to remove the above posters we now have less views and these forums have lost their humour and rich content. I say bring back GF and DB immediately.

Please post your support if you agree?

I agree, not exactly a rush to get GF reinstated was there. Democracy rules :0)

Well since his ban i have had a couple of emails back and forth with Goldfinger .

I always got on well with him and when i first arrived here more than 10 years ago he was always helpful where i was concerned .

Trashing threads is wrong without doubt and it seemed out of character for him to do that .

For me he was always one of the better posters ,there are some supposedly hot shots on here who wouldn't give you the time of day .
As for arguing on the internet i can't see the point , you can never get to punch the person annoying you so why bother .

chris - how valuable to the site do you feel DB was? .... you don't really need to answer!
:-)

55011 - is this an alter ego for a member whom we might all know?

55,

Have spilt your old ale again?

arguably only fred is older than me on this site, but i would be more than happy to act as Father of the House and try to keep a lid on GF's excesses .... there's a small chance GF will listen to me (DB assuredly will not)

What time were they having this row?

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When you think you are important put you finger in a bowl of water and notice the hole you leave when you take it out.

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But, the charts thread was interesting to me, often put the larger companies in my to watch portfolio and personally never found GF offensive to me. But I do wish he would think a shade or two longer before hitting the Key board.

Sad for me.

No "old ale" Fred, the stuff doesn't stay on the shelf long enough.

Can't see Stan offering to push the boat out anytime soon, seeing as his computer is maxed out..........

Still, as long as the market rises all should come good!

fred - you really are getting senile ..... i do wish you would think a shade or two longer before hitting the keyboard :-)

Quite disappointing the number of posters and READERS that have expressed a view on here . Many seem willing to read the threads put up By GF that have been very good . I can tell by the counters on the threads I have introduced to the site that there are many more readers than contributors. This thread has been up a day or so and I am disappointed in the numbers willing to stand up for GF and db4. Even if nothing comes of it , do regular readers of the sites not owe something back ?

Makes me wonder if I ever came close to a ban on the ASC "ASOS" thread with all the abuse Tomasz and I threw at each other!!

I think that's the only person I've ever had handbags at 5m with!

Here, here dreamcatcher on the above... GF mainly traded equities where as I mainly trade indices and currency so can say I never followed his posts from an investment perspective. However as we both chart, we share a common interest.. An interest I feel will now be lost on MAM..

Extinction I would think!

cynic - Nothing against DB, he was never offensive to me or anybody else as far as i am aware. I did take his side against GF freely admit.

If anybody is in any doubt re GF and his odd ball ways check out FOXT thread. Start on page 6. For confirmation check out same thread across the road where he posts as mike740. The logic of de-ramping a stock when not even trading it is lost on me, throw in personal abuse against DB on this thread and both DB and CR across the road and you may change your mind. Not to mention multiple user names (who have conversations). DYOR this is not a one off. Do you really want this board to go the same way?

Apart from the above what sort of mental state would drive you to trash number of threads on here because posters disagreed with your point of view?

Gf asked me post this from email to me.

Anyway Ive seen Mikes final decision and thought hes not getting off that lightly, so Ive sent him this reply, PLEASE copy it on the board I take full responsibility for it. And just to say a massive big thankyou for your considerable efforts. I wish you the very best going forward. Make loads err money.

Heres my reply to Mike sent 10 minutes ago.........


Dear Mike,

this is what you have posted on a money am thread.

Bullshare Send an email to Bullshare View Bullshare's profile - 04 Feb 2015 14:14 - 48 of 48

As you know we are very patient and very very tolerant with posters. In the 12 years we have been going, I can count on one hand those we have banned. We have a team of moderators who kindly keep an eye on the boards, so sometimes you will miss some of the more choice crap that’s posted as we remove it before most of you wake up!

We like free speech but when the enjoyment of others is impaired by individuals and they go beyond what is reasonable we take action as we have done in this case.

We did have a yellow card and a red card system in place but to be honest we never needed to use it because the posters themselves normally see off the rebels. So in a sense the board self moderates, we occasionally intervene with warnings both public to them on the BB’s and in private by email.

We have a good squelch button which does work but it only works when you squelch someone and don’t turn them back on again 5 minutes later. Some say they squelch a user and then instantly comment on the squelched users post, very odd!!

One of the users we banned this week decided to completely trash our BB’s over a weekend which meant our moderators and myself spent a good part of the weekend watching their antics. Goes with the job I suppose.

Sometimes individual egos get bigger than our boards, so it’s time for them to go and never return...............ends


Well Id like to reply to you and point out some inaccuracies in your post.

You say you have never had to use your yellow card/red card system, wrong, you issued myself and a poster called outsider both a yellow card when you started that system and the board was moderated in them days to a far better standard, our spat was nipped in the bud immediatly and ended.

Secondly my trashing of bulletin board threads was born out of frustration and retaliation to the NON moderation of the Bulletin/Board. I see you fail to mention that you did not give me any protection from the trashing of the Chart Thread from a gang of 3 posters, Chris Carson, Doodlebug4 , and aldwick. I used to spend many hours working into the small hours of the morning updating that thread using picks from a stock filter and all the verification work needed afterwards.

This trashing went on for two and a half months and Ian received several HELP e-mails from me but each time I was fobbed off and asked to use the filter button which I did, but as you know if you were out on the boards posters can by deception get around this by asking leading questions to other posters that involve the person with the filter button on. Ask Haystack, he as pointed this out in the past.

I was also subject to trolling from two of these posters Chris Carson and Doodlebug4, they followed me to every thread that I went to and made rude and nasty comments about me.

Now you say you use 5 Moderators????????????????? where on earth were they when I needed them?. A quick slap behind the ear would have nipped everything in the bud, but ohhh no they were no where to be seen. Do they really exist?.

You say this in your post above....."One of the users we banned this week decided to completely trash our BB’s over a weekend which meant our moderators and myself spent a good part of the weekend watching their antics.

"................watching, watching their antics, do you not think at least one of you moderators should have intervened, why else are they moderating a bulletin board?. Are they just there to twiddle there thumbs, or do you not have this manpower as I suggest?.

Why is the poster mentor .....aka Master RSI.........banned 3 times previously now again posting at will, and for days on end, why was doodlebug4 allowed to post with another handle until I used my other legitimate handle from a former employer (security reasons and cleared by Ian)pointed him out on his second day of posting. It was clear to a blind man that it was him. What were you board moderators doing?.

I also admit in hindsight when I look back at the thread, that I went well over the top when proving that doodlebug4 had lied misled and fradulently made his claims on the FLYB thread. I bring your attention to this part of the CONTENT STANDARDS which he clearly breached......................

Contributions must:
Be accurate where they state facts
Be genuinely held where they state opinions
Comply with applicable law in any country from which they are posted
and..........
Be likely to deceive any person;
Be likely to harass, upset, embarrass, alarm or annoy any other person;
And I also took exception to your post here............ on the bugs thread........

Bullshare Send an email to Bullshare View Bullshare's profile - 30 Jan 2015 11:46 - 52 of 147

jimmyb; It became unreadable with all the rubbish on there. Feel free to start a new thread.........................ends

Rubbish Rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spent a good half day proving Doodlebug had lied through his teeth........more to the point WHERE were YOUR MODERATORS when these deceptive posts (that I had pointed out)were being constructed??????.

And as for your summing up ..........."individual egos get bigger than our boards" ends..... Totaly untrue Im one of the most caring and humble people you could ever wish to meet.

I conclude by saying that it think you and your admin team have miss managed this situation, I dont know wether that is because of lack of resources or wether its just rank poor management, Id like to think its the former having been a member here from more or less day one.

Ive enjoyed my time on money and made many freinds but have found recently standards have slipped and can only think it is indeed lack of resources. If you had communicated with posters on the board Im sure like myself I would have volunteered duties for free.

I wish you the best going forward but cant help but feel upset and bitter towards your actions too me.

Regards mick aka goldfinger.

ps, I think you should post my reply on the board if your a fair decent man which I took you to be. And by the way doodlebug4 as set up a duplicate thread on advfn with all the posts copied in full, he will no doubt be posting your comments and comments after your decision, not much of a nice person ehh.

And on a final note from myself, good luck with your investments all.

I no longer wish to be a part of these forums...

Good Luck Shortie, join ADVFN and please do your own research. See you back on here within a week.

shortie - i shall be very very sorry to see you depart ..... i hated advfn when i visited there for 20 minutes a few years ago, as there was just interminable personal abuse flying around

chris - your allegiance as DB's puppy has been abundantly obvious for quite a while, so your posts here were no surprise at all

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for myself, i am bitterly disappointed with a great many aspects of the way the management has handled this whole affair, including the inaction of the moderators ..... with effective and efficient management all this could and should have been stopped in its infancy

GF is indeed a total arsehole at times and his conduct can be pretty reprehensible, and i have told him as much .... however, he was most certainly not alone (and yes, i probably got a bit over-excited for a while too)

it's a great shame that GF kept rising to the bait laid out specifically for him by DB and several other advfn refugees

It's my plug.

No it isn't.

It's my bath then.

Al-right then.

Dad.

What?

OOOOOH!

Why not put the plug back in and then we can all have bath and think about it!