goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Haystack
- 25 Jan 2015 10:52
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The odd thing is that neither the Greeks nor the party that might win today want to leave the Euro or the EU. The Greek people by a large majority like the EU and the Euro. They just want their debt forgiven. They want their cake and eat it. They borrowed cheap money to spend on stupid projects and now can't pay it back.
MaxK
- 25 Jan 2015 11:08
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There's nothing odd about wanting to have your cake and eating it.
Everyone likes free money.
Your last few words sums it up tho, they cant pay it back.
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 11:10
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Manuel and Max.
Which is your true friend.
I think Cameron seems to have picked a true friend who shares his own values and they are all in it together.
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 11:11
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Perhaps one of them could be the next tory chancellor.
Sorry tory party treasurer!
Haystack
- 25 Jan 2015 11:19
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Conservatives and Labour tied
Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 23rd January -
Con 32%, Lab 32%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%, GRN 7%;
MaxK
- 25 Jan 2015 11:25
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They're both snakes Fred!
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 11:32
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PS.
Cameron is said to be very proud of any new member.
Ukip's former star Amjad Bashir tells Tim Ross why he is pleased to be supporting David Cameron at the election, as the Prime Minister says he is "very proud" of his newest recruit
Haystack
- 25 Jan 2015 11:46
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90% of people get this wrong!
What is
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1
1 + 1 X 0 + 1 = ?
MaxK
- 25 Jan 2015 11:52
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onety three
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 12:00
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The Crammer's homework for Cameron and George Osborne at No 10.
Stan
- 25 Jan 2015 12:00
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For those who missed it earlier.
UKIP suspect infects the "Con" party:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30967633
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 12:04
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Stan.
I suggest the Bashir would make a suitable leader for the Tory party in opposition!
MaxK
- 25 Jan 2015 12:47
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goldfinger
- 25 Jan 2015 13:51
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ohhhhhh dear Tories getting desperate, taking om a man who as links to Pakistan extremists.
MaxK
- 25 Jan 2015 13:57
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A very good article
A Bunch Of Criminals
By Raul Ilargi Meijer
01/24/2015 10:01 -0500
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-24/bunch-criminals
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 14:27
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Max.
Have you ever thought of forming your own branch of the AF?
I think your philosophy would fit in nicely.
MaxK
- 25 Jan 2015 14:29
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Did you read the article Fred?
If so, what was your considered opinion?
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 14:48
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Manuel, Hazy,
They are all beginning to jump ship under he command of Wavy Dave and Geogie Boy
Lady Warsi launches bitter assault on coalition strategy towards Muslims
Former Tory chair targets Michael Gove for criticism and says failure to engage with the community ‘has fuelled resentment’
Lady Warsi: Muslims will speak up for British values only when they know they will be heard
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/24/baroness-warsi-coalition-assault-muslims
Fred1new
- 25 Jan 2015 14:49
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Ps.
Hays,
Be a good boy and nip down to Tory Party Central Office and see what the new policy or mantra is!
doodlebug4
- 25 Jan 2015 14:50
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By Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor
12:15PM GMT 25 Jan 2015
The First Minister says halting the renewal of Britain's nuclear deterrent would be her "absolute priority" if the SNP holds the balance of power
Nicola Sturgeon has made the scrapping of Trident the “absolute” red line for the SNP propping up a minority Labour government after the general election despite there being a clear Commons majority to keep Britain’s nuclear deterrent.
The First Minister said that her top priority in a hung parliament would be halting the renewal of Trident and argued the £2.9 billion annual savings would mean the UK Government could abandon public spending cuts without increasing taxes.
Speaking on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show, she claimed she could persuade Ed Miliband to bow to her wishes despite there being no prospect of the SNP holding the balance of power in a vote on Trident.
Jim Murphy, the Scottish Labour leader, accused her of “horse-trading” Britain’s national security so she could play “footsie about possible coalitions” with his party.
Even if a Miliband premiership could not rely on a Labour majority in the Commons, Conservative MPs would vote with him to pass the renewal plans.
Ms Sturgeon denied claims on a new Conservative election poster that a deal between her party and the Labour leader would create “chaos” in Britain, saying Nationalist MPs would play a “constructive” role in the Commons.
But she said sending a large number of SNP MPs to Westminster to be a strong voice for Scotland is would merely be an "interim" measure until the next independence referendum.
She argued that Scots want a Labour government informally propped up by the SNP, with opinion polls showing her party is on course to win all but a handful of seats north of the Border.
Despite economists warning the move would punch a £7 billion hole in Scotland’s public spending, thanks to the oil price, she also repeated her demand for “full fiscal autonomy” in return for supporting a Labour government.
Speaking after her appearance on the programme, Ms Sturgeon said: “If we deliver a strong team of SNP MPs at the general election, an absolute priority will be getting Trident renewal halted.
“And the more MPs we get elected, the greater the chances of holding the balance of power and achieving the end of Trident, which will free up enormous resources.”
She said the cost of renewing Trident, which is based at Faslane on the Clyde, is around £3 billion per year rising to £4 billion in the 2020s and argued the savings from scrapping it should be spent on the NHS and childcare.
The SNP would work with “progressive political forces” to “halt Trident renewal in its tracks”, she added, name-checking the Greens and Plaid Cymru.
"If you look at polls in Scotland, as well as showing a substantial SNP lead they show that the most popular outcome in Scotland in the general election is a Labour government dependent on SNP support," she said.
Mr Marr pointed out that a minority Labour government would not have to rely on SNP votes to secure the future of the nuclear deterrent, but she argued that many Scottish Labour party members also oppose it.
Speaking later on the BBC’s Sunday Politics programme, Mr Murphy said a decision about Trident should not be about “playing footsie about possible coalitions with other parties”.
“It’s about negotiations with other nuclear states to ensure the world is nuclear free. The nuclear deterrent is too important to get involved in that sort of horse-trading on the nation’s safety,” he said.
“I want a world free of nuclear weapons. You should negotiate that with other nuclear powers, not negotiate away for party, partisan gain.” He refused to be drawn on Labour’s negotiating stance after the general election, saying it was planning for a Commons majority.
Ms Sturgeon confirmed SNP MPs would start voting on English health and education matters in the Commons where there was a knock-on effect on Scotland’s funding thanks to the Barnett formula.
But she admitted there was a “very strong case” for English votes for English laws where there is no impact on Scotland.
Ms Sturgeon said another condition for her propping up Labour would be to get rid of 12 supposed Westminster “vetoes” included in draft laws unveiled by David Cameron last week transferring a swathe of new powers to Holyrood. The Prime Minister made clear there were no vetoes.
The Unionist parties have argued the package of powers will provide Scottish home rule but she said her definition of this was all tax and spending, or full fiscal autonomy.
She was forced to deny she was secretly relieved at having lost the referendum following the collapse of the oil price to less than $50 per barrel, arguing it would recover.
The Institute for Fiscal Studies has estimated independence or fiscal autonomy would create a £7 billion black hole in Scotland’s budget compared to the status quo.
Ms Sturgeon also repeated her argument that the UK as a whole voting to leave the EU in a referendum, with a majority of Scots voting to stay in, could trigger a second referendum.