Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

It's no good hiding in the closet Haystack...we all know you are a lefty remainiac in real life.

Mr T's dummer brother

Is that the best you can do?

dummer? Which grammar school did you go to Hays? Doh.

Wasn't a good joke

an amusing cartoon - well done fred :-) !

TM and her cohorts have a very interesting and difficult path to tread, as indeed do the germans with their 27 "friends"

there is certainly an evens chance that the eu will implode (explode?) within the next 10 years, and in truth that would beto the benefit of none except arguably a fairly bellicose putin

nevertheless, i am increasingly glad (i think :-) ) that we are leaving the federal octopus

JP MORGAN CEO: Brexit makes euro collapse '5 times more likely'

The UK's vote to leave the European Union has made the chance of a eurozone collapse five times more likely, JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon said.
Brexit made the "chances of the eurozone not surviving in the next decade five times higher," Dimon said according to a report in the Financial Times.
Dimon made the comments at a conference organised by the International Institute of Finance, which was attended by other Wall Street bank CEOs including Morgan Stanley boss James Gorman.
Dimon also said that Brexit would create uncertainty for the UK but not disaster.
"It will reduce the GDP of the UK. That’s not a disaster. It will create years of uncertainty. That’s not a disaster," he said.

The leaked Treasury paper exposing that the UK would lose 66 billion in tax
revenue a year was constructed before the referendum and was ALL part of
the project fear and scaremongering that was spewing from the pro-eu
remainer's, which didn't take into account any free trades negotiated with the
rest of the free world.

This latest expose' would have been instigated by a 'friend' of the late lamentable
'boy' george osborne at the Times.

It depends on whether one is the top or the bottom of the pile.

The great Brexit stitch up starts in earnest today, by ALL the establishment
parties, they are still under the illusion that we LEAVERS didn't know what
we were voting for...

you glibly assume that that everyone who voted "out" did so for exactly the same reasons as you ..... i am 100% certain that i for one did not

170 in depth questions, plus all the rest. They'll talk it into oblivion.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/12/brexit-strategy-theresa-may-labour-jeremy-corbyn-pmqs-live/

Max.
One to cheer you up.

Just about my 90%'s worth of reason for voting out:

The EU is not democratic.

cynic 5620, 'glibly'?, I voted to LEAVE that undemocratic, unaccountable, anti-nation,
Big business, dictatorship, to regain the control of our borders and for sovereignty
to be returned to Westminster.

What was YOUR reason again?

You can talk and debate as much as you like but ........
"There will not be a vote on triggering Article 50."

UK's May offers lawmakers scrutiny of Brexit process, no Article 50 vote

LONDON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May has agreed to demands for parliament to debate the government's plans to leave the European Union, but ruled out letting it vote on whether to trigger the formal Brexit procedure.

Late on Tuesday, May moved to appease some lawmakers in her ruling Conservative Party by allowing a motion proposed by the opposition Labour Party for a "full and transparent debate" on how the government will enact the public vote to leave the EU.

The move spurred sterling, which has fallen 18 percent against the dollar since the June referendum, with investors concerned Britain is heading for a so-called "hard Brexit", or a clean break from the bloc's lucrative single market of 500 million consumers in order to control immigration.

But May, under pressure from Labour and other lawmakers to offer them more than her catchphrase of "Brexit means Brexit", stopped short of promising a formal vote on her strategy before triggering Article 50 of the EU's Lisbon Treaty.

"We've always said that parliament has an important role to play, and the amendment reflects that," May's spokeswoman said on Wednesday morning.

"But we also believe this should be done in a way that respects the decision of the people of the UK when they voted to leave the EU on 23 June and does not undermine the negotiating position of the government."

"There will not be a vote on triggering Article 50."

Sterling trimmed some of its gains on Wednesday after that statement.

Appointed prime minister shortly after the referendum on EU membership, May has come under pressure to break with her policy of refusing to give a "running commentary" from not only opposition lawmakers but from members of her own party.

They say by refusing to debate her strategy May is undermining Britain's centuries-old democracy. The prime minister says she does not want to show her hand before starting some of the most complex negotiations London has ever undertaken.

"I and many others did not exercise our vote in the referendum so as to restore the sovereignty of this parliament only to see what we regarded as the tyranny of the European Union replaced by that of a government," Stephen Phillips, a Conservative lawmaker who voted to leave, told the Guardian newspaper.

INVESTORS JUMPY

The Labour lawmakers' motion called for a full debate on the government's plan to leave the EU and demanded the chamber be "able properly to scrutinise that plan for leaving the EU before Article 50 is invoked".

May accepted the motion with conditions via an amendment, under her name, posted on the parliament website. In it, the government said: "The process should be undertaken in such a way that respects the decision of the people of the UK when they voted to leave the EU."

Any scrutiny must "not undermine the negotiating position of the Government as negotiations are entered into which will take place after Article 50 has been triggered".

May has defended her "prerogative" to trigger the divorce without parliamentary approval and her government will defend that position at London's High Court on Thursday, when a legal challenge led by a pro-EU investment fund manager will begin.

The former interior minister has given little away on her negotiating strategy, signalling that she wanted to return sovereignty to Britain, reduce immigration but also have the best possible deal for businesses and trade.

Investors fear that with three leading Brexit campaigners among her closest advisers, May is taking Britain towards a "hard Brexit". On Tuesday, several top bankers said they could start moving staff abroad as early as next year if there was no clarity on access to the single market.

Trying to calm markets, May's aides say the prime minister has not ruled out winning access to the single market and sources close to her indicate that the government still has a long way to go before coming up with a clear stance.

"There are no leaks, because there is nothing to leak," an aide said last week

They just won't accept it will they , this is the arrogant type of politics we wanted to get rid of ..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3833496/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Whingeing-Contemptuous-Unpatriotic-Damn-Bremoaners-plot-subvert-British-people.html

Replace it with a dictatorship representing 37% (+or -) of the population

Much better to take what the reactionaries state as gospel.


Ummmmmh!