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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2015 09:21 - 56183 of 81564

dreamcatcher - 01 Feb 2015 09:30 - 56184 of 81564

Labour knives out for 'loser' Red Ed: Election panic grips party as big guns turn on 'haunted' Miliband
Ed Miliband's leadership comes under heavy fire from his own party
Labour leader faces crisis as biggest private donor attacks NHS policies
Millionaire donor John Mills says Labour is wrong to decry privatisation
Miliband looks 'haunted' as he knows his party is set to lose the Election
His aides are already discussing how to keep him as leader if he loses vote




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934698/Labour-knives-loser-Red-Ed-Election-panic-grips-party-big-guns-turn-haunted-Miliband.html

dreamcatcher - 01 Feb 2015 09:43 - 56185 of 81564

The mood of Labour MPs is ‘not so much one of despair, it’s worse than that – resignation,’ says Mr Cowley.

Labour appeared to be ‘willing itself to defeat. The party knows it is losing an Election that it should be winning, and doesn’t know what to do about it.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934698/Labour-knives-loser-Red-Ed-Election-panic-grips-party-big-guns-turn-haunted-Miliband.html#ixzz3QU85LPrh
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Fred1new - 01 Feb 2015 10:16 - 56186 of 81564

DC,

You are huffing and puffing, wait for the last 30 days of the wind up to the G.E..

It is tories who always stick the their knives in the back.

By the time of the GE. the ripple effect of Greece will be seen in the UK.



dreamcatcher - 01 Feb 2015 10:24 - 56187 of 81564

Very relaxed really Fred. Your not reading what the British public are. Your leader is going down. A party very much in despair. I suggest you re-read the above .

Haystack - 01 Feb 2015 12:02 - 56188 of 81564

Good final for the tennis on BBC 1 now.

cynic - 01 Feb 2015 14:04 - 56189 of 81564

fred huffs an puffs and rants and raves, telling us all what a bunch of wankers the present incumbents are, that the latest elections in greece should stir the socialists everywhere to do something - but doesn't and won't actually vote himself, using the pathetic excuse that that is his democratic right

if labour ends up holding the most most seats after the election then so be it, but at least i'll have cast a vote - and fred won't

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2015 15:01 - 56190 of 81564


Cynic,

Watch out same problems are in your age group.

Watch out the NHS is being weponised.


Beds crisis hits NHS care for mentally ill children

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/31/nhs-crisis-mentally-ill-children-adult-wards

Emails reveal emergency new steps as teenagers aged 16-18 are put on adult wards rather than in specialist adolescent facilities
Hospitals have been advised to adopt emergency procedures
Hospitals have been advised to adopt emergency procedures and admit young mental health patients to adult wards. Photograph: Aurumarcus/Getty Images


Toby Helm and Jamie Doward
Saturday 31 January 2015 19.28 GMT

The NHS crisis intensified this weekend as hospitals were advised to adopt emergency procedures and admit young mental health patients to adult wards because of an acute national shortage of places for children and adolescents.

Instructions sent by NHS England on Friday night to hospital trusts, and leaked to the Observer, state that the shortage of beds for young mental health patients is now so serious that 16- and 17-year-olds – who should be admitted to specialist child adolescent mental health facilities (Camhs) – are likely instead to be admitted to adult wards.

The Mental Health Act 1983 states that 16- and 17-year-olds should only be admitted to adult wards in a “crisis situation” and for a short period, or where a patient is nearly 18 and the adult ward has appropriate specialist services.

Labour’s shadow minister for public health, Luciana Berger, described the situation as “utterly appalling” and blamed the crisis on £50m of cuts to children’s mental health services since 2010.

In the email seen by the Observer, which was sent on Friday on the instruction of national officials working for NHS England, the medical director for East Anglia, says: “I have just been asked to inform you all by the national specialist commissioning team of the current national lack of child and adolescent mental health beds.

“I do hope that you will not have cause to need one for any of your young population over the weekend but just to advise of the likely challenge if you do … Depending on your hospital policy this is likely to mean the 16- 18-year-olds will need admission to the adult wards, which I appreciate causes an even bigger challenge.”

NHS England declined to say whether similar instructions had been issued nationwide, as the memo suggested. But a spokesman said beds were still available for the most serious cases.

“Since August last year we’ve opened an extra 46 beds for children with the most severe mental health needs. Many need this care so, while beds are available we have asked services to ensure they have plans in place for any young person with mental health problems to receive the right care, in the right place at the right time to suit their individual needs.”

Sarah Brennan, chief executive of the mental health charity YoungMinds, said: “It is unacceptable that children and young people are being placed on adult wards which is completely inappropriate for them, and which the Mental Health Act rightly says should not happen. Young people in crisis should also not be transferred hundreds of miles to get a bed, which is going to be the result of this situation and in fact has been for far too long.

“This is not only a question of lack of available beds. It is a question about why so many children and young people are needing in-patient care in the first place. YoungMinds has warned for years that cuts to early intervention services would place great pressure on the in-patient system. We need more investment in services that support and help children and young people when they first start to struggle.”

Pressure on the government over the NHS mounted further as Stephen Dorrell, the former Tory health secretary, says in an Observer interview that reforms of the health system pushed through by Andrew Lansley in 2012 did not address the real problem: the need to keep people out of hospital by improving care services. Dorrell said the reforms were the worst mistake of this government and accused ministers of being more interested in pursuing headlines than a policy which addressed the NHS’s real needs.

A report issued last November by the all-party health select committee, then chaired by Dorrell, expressed serious concern about mental health services for young people. “There are major problems with access to Tier 4 in-patie




And so on.


NHS safe in tory hands. What a laugh.

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2015 15:07 - 56191 of 81564

Even the tory party faithful are turning on the splitting party, which concentrates on splitting the country.


Health reform is our biggest mistake in this parliament, says Tory ex-minister
Exclusive: Stephen Dorrell slams his party on the NHS as he prepares to leave the Commons


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/31/health-reform-tories-biggest-mistake-parliament-nhs-stephen-dorrell-mp


Asked if he regards the Health and Social Care Act of 2012, driven through the Commons by Andrew Lansley in the face of furious opposition from the health sector, as the biggest mistake of this parliament he is in no doubt at all. “Yes I do agree with that. The reason I agree with it is partly for the political fallout, but the thing I care most about is the lost opportunity in the health and care system.”

In a dig at Lansley, he says politicians these days don’t think through their ideas and head off instead in search of headlines. In Thatcher’s day he believes there was more intellectual and policy rigour. “Politicians have always been interested in headlines, of course they have. But they have become more willing to settle for a story than a policy,” he said.

Dorrell voted for the Lansley bill – which abolished primary care trusts and strategic health authorities and transferred £80bn of healthcare funding to clinical commissioning groups – because it introduced “some worthwhile changes” such as health and wellbeing boards. But he says the massive institutional reorganisation was largely unnecessary and meant the government overlooked the far more urgent challenge of improving the NHS so that fewer people have to go into hospital, and that those who do are discharged as soon as possible.



TANKER - 01 Feb 2015 15:28 - 56192 of 81564

He has forbidden you only dead animals, and blood, and the flesh of swine...” (Quran 2:173)

“For that surely is impure” (Quran 6:145)

Muslims refrain from eating pork and pork products because God has forbidden it. However a little investigation into the anatomy and lifestyle of the pig reveals that it is certainly an unclean animal. Those interested in consuming healthy, natural, and pure foods would do well to abstain from pork and pork products.

any muslim having blood from a non muslim as broken the quran all non muslims eat pig meat and their blood is tainted with pig blood so you can now take it that in the western world their are now millions of muslims who have had swine blood
the quran never saw muslims mixing with non muslims . so to be a true muslim you must never have a blood transfusion in the uk or any other non muslim country

been looking into the quran on blood to have blood from a non believer is againt the belief of their god . read the quran before trying to trash this post

Haystack - 01 Feb 2015 15:42 - 56193 of 81564

Pork is the most widely eaten meat in the world.

cynic - 01 Feb 2015 15:47 - 56194 of 81564

pork was banned by jews and muslims for excellent reasons of health ... indeed, even in my youth, it was not found in uk butchers in the summer months .... why? because at that time, it had a tendency towards harbouring tapeworm, and due to lower standards of hygiene and refrigeration, it also had a propensity to going off too quickly for comfort

the rules of halal and kosher dictate that the animal should have its throat cut as this allows the blood, the main carrier and cause of disease and similar, to drain from the body

for jews, though i'm uncertain about muslims, the rear quarters of animals are also effectively deemed not kosher due to the problem of ensuring that all the blood has properly drained out

as far as jews are concerned , this ban also extends to fish without scales - eg shellfish - for similar reasons

personally, i think this whole thing is a nonsense in today's age
however, if someone wants to follow those rules, then good luck to them

Haystack - 01 Feb 2015 16:55 - 56195 of 81564

cynic
I know you are only a few months older, but there was no problem getting pork in summer months when I was young. I lived in London from birth, but maybe you came from a more rural area.

Chris Carson - 01 Feb 2015 17:04 - 56196 of 81564

By Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor11:17AM GMT 01 Feb 2015 Comments205 Comments
Douglas Alexander has poured cold water on the prospect of a power-sharing deal between Labour and the SNP after the general election after rejecting Nicola Sturgeon’s “priority” demand for the scrapping of Trident.
The Shadow Foreign Secretary said that a minority Labour government would exclude Britain’s nuclear deterrent from any negotiations with other parties if there is a hung parliament.
He echoed Ed Miliband by refusing to categorically rule out a deal with the SNP but told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show that “defending this country” would not be the subject of political horse-trading.
In a further blow to Ms Sturgeon, he also rejected her demand that Scotland be granted full fiscal autonomy, arguing this would mean the end of the Barnett formula and Scottish public spending being cut by at least £4 billion.
The intervention by Mr Alexander, who is coordinating Labour’s general election campaign, came a week after Ms Sturgeon made scrapping Trident the “absolute” red line for her party propping up a Miliband government.



Alex Salmond, her predecessor as First Minister and SNP leader, today confirmed that the party’s price for supporting Labour would be not renewing the nuclear deterrent and full “home rule” for Scotland.
But Mr Alexander said: “As a prospective Foreign Secretary in an incoming Labour Government, the responsibility of defending this country is not something that is the subject of simply trading away interests one way or the other.
“Let her play that game. My responsibility is to work to deliver a Labour government. The responsibility of a Labour government would be to keep this country safe.”
He said Ms Sturgeon was in the “rather curious position” of stating she wants a Labour Government but arguing the best way of achieving that was to vote SNP instead.



But he argued what she really wanted was a Tory victory and an in-out referendum on Europe as this would create the best circumstances for her to push for the break-up of Britain
Ms Sturgeon has previously argued that another independence referendum could be triggered by UK voting to leave Europe but a majority of Scots wanting to stay.
Mr Alexander said the reality was that “every one less Labour MP in Scotland” increases the chances of another Tory Government led by David Cameron.
Questioned about a Tory election poster showing Ed Miliband and Mr Salmond together on the doorstep of 10 Downing Street, he said Mr Cameron’s “last best hope is now to split the Centre-Left vote in the United Kingdom and that’s why I’m simply not going to play that game.”
The Paisley and Renfrewshire South MP said Ms Sturgeon’s demand for full fiscal autonomy would “rob” Scotland of £4 billion hole of public spending even before the impact of the collapse in the oil price is taken into account.
If this is included, the impartial Institute of Fiscal Studies has warned Scotland would be £7 billion worse off as the sharp decline in oil revenues would not be absorbed by the wider UK.
Mr Alexander rejected the SNP’s third demand, the end of austerity, saying this was incompatible with the Nationalists’ desire to cut corporation tax by 3p in the pound.
He said he backed calls from Jim Murphy, the Scottish Labour leader, that Scottish MPs need to return to their constituencies and “campaign like fury”.
Mr Salmond told Sky News’s Murnaghan programme that a formal coalition with Labour would be “unlikely” and the party would instead use a hung parliament to extract concessions on an issue-by-issue basis.
He added: "Instead of another bout of austerity from Labour or Conservative the cancellation of the renewal of the Trident missile system and diverting that funding, £30 billion over the next ten years, into health and education and something useful and productive and I think that will have a lot of support in England as well as in Scotland."




Stan - 01 Feb 2015 18:04 - 56197 of 81564

"Watch out same problems are in your age group.


Beds crisis hits NHS care for mentally ill children"

MaxK - 01 Feb 2015 18:56 - 56198 of 81564

dreamcatcher - 01 Feb 2015 18:58 - 56199 of 81564

MaxK - 01 Feb 2015 19:14 - 56200 of 81564

That is truly gruesome dc, makes the first pic look benign.

dreamcatcher - 01 Feb 2015 19:29 - 56201 of 81564



Must remember I have the dentist in the morning. :-))


MaxK - 01 Feb 2015 19:34 - 56202 of 81564

And the bum doctor.


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