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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 09 Feb 2015 09:16 - 56428 of 81564

MrT - ALL muslims????? .... what absolute rubbish, and indeed, the asians and muslims as a general group have enriched this country incalculably both culturally and financially

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 09:25 - 56429 of 81564

so why are they not protesting about their faith being used to murder people .the answer is simple they support them not one protest about isil silent and backing them via collects . so come on cynic why are they not speaking out in the view of the uk public . they never will stab in the back yes

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 09:28 - 56430 of 81564

the scum they call john the murderer family must be in the uk and a lot of muslims in the uk no who this scum is yet no one will name him why come oncynic answer the questions . or stop covering for them

Fred1new - 09 Feb 2015 09:33 - 56431 of 81564

HSBC bank 'helped clients dodge millions in tax'

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Was this Tory government was aware of this for 4years and preferred ot hide their mates away while prosecuting Welfare false claimants?

Is Austria involved in washing the funds of "hard working tax payers"?

Good tory standards.


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HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) was given the leaked data in 2010 and has identified 1,100 people who had not paid their taxes. But almost five years later, only one tax evader has been prosecuted.

Continue reading the main story


Panorama
Watch Panorama: The Bank of Tax Cheats on BBC One on 9 February at 20.30 GMT or later on the BBC iPlayer.


HMRC said £135m in tax, interest and penalties have now been paid by those who hid their assets in Switzerland.



How much was paid into tory party slush funds as tips?

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Is the tory party attempting to cover up corrupt practice?

Stan - 09 Feb 2015 09:35 - 56432 of 81564

Interesting this one Fred, might have legs.

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 09:37 - 56433 of 81564

take a look at who has investments with the hedge funds given free stamp duty on sharedealings look at the top gov mps investing it stinks of corruption no wonder they leave gov very rich

cynic - 09 Feb 2015 09:38 - 56434 of 81564

stan .... which what is interesting? ..... if it's MrT's ravings, they make fred and the late GF look tongue-tied :-)

Stan - 09 Feb 2015 09:48 - 56435 of 81564

Mr T needs to do some more thinking before posting.

cynic - 09 Feb 2015 09:50 - 56436 of 81564

more thinking?????
ANY would be a good start i'm afraid, but never mind, he's pretty harmless, much as were those who used to shout the odds at Speaker's Corner

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 09:58 - 56437 of 81564

cynic I am a honest good person who lives by the rules of life treat people as you would like to be treated your self , that is our to live but alas you help people to escape persecution then they turn on the people that helped them

cynic - 09 Feb 2015 10:03 - 56438 of 81564

hmm!
seems to me that you are pretty xenophobic

Fred1new - 09 Feb 2015 10:05 - 56439 of 81564

Stan.

Flogged my holding of HSBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31248913

Mind the tory needed to promote Green to the House of Lords.


"The thousands of pages of data were obtained by the French newspaper Le Monde. In a joint investigation, the documents have now been passed to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, the Guardian newspaper, Panorama and more than 50 media outlets around the world.

The documents include details of almost 7,000 British clients - and many of the accounts were not declared to the taxman.

HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) was given the leaked data in 2010 and has identified 1,100 people who had not paid their taxes. But almost five years later, only one tax evader has been prosecuted.

Continue reading the main story
Find out more

Panorama
Watch Panorama: The Bank of Tax Cheats on BBC One on 9 February at 20.30 GMT or later on the BBC iPlayer.

BBC iPlayer
Read HSBC's response in full
HMRC said £135m in tax, interest and penalties have now been paid by those who hid their assets in Switzerland.

But the chairwoman of the Public Accounts Committee, Margaret Hodge MP, said: "I just don't think the tax authorities have been strong enough, assertive enough, brave enough, tough enough in securing for the British taxpayer the monies that are due."

HSBC did not just turn a blind eye to tax evaders - in some cases it broke the law by actively helping its clients.

The bank gave one wealthy family a foreign credit card so they could withdraw their undeclared cash at cashpoints overseas.

HSBC also helped its tax-dodging clients stay ahead of the law.

When the European Savings Directive was introduced in 2005, the idea was that Swiss banks would take any tax owed from undeclared accounts and pass it to the taxman.

It was a tax designed to catch tax evaders. But instead of simply collecting the money, HSBC wrote to customers and offered them ways to get round the new tax.

HSBC denies that all these account holders were evading tax.

'Dodge liabilities'
Richard Brooks, a former tax inspector and author of The Great Tax Robbery, said: "I think they were a tax avoidance and tax evasion service. I think that's what they were offering. They knew full well that people come to them to dodge their tax liabilities."

The bank now faces criminal investigations in the US, France, Belgium and Argentina. HSBC said it is "co-operating with relevant authorities". But in the UK, where the bank is based, no such action has been taken.

Stephen Green"

Fred1new - 09 Feb 2015 10:12 - 56440 of 81564

Is the Tory spokesman defending his mates and slush fund donations?

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I don't think Cameron would be fit to rule over a banana republic.

The documents include details of almost 7,000 British clients - and many of the accounts were not declared to the taxman.

HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) was given the leaked data in 2010 and has identified 1,100 people who had not paid their taxes. But almost five years later, only one tax evader has been prosecuted.


One can see why the public do not trust this government, and consider copying them by tax "evasion".

Fred1new - 09 Feb 2015 10:16 - 56441 of 81564

Interesting thought, was Osborne and IDS screwing the poorest when turning a blind eye to the "tax" dodging of their mates?

What a period in the UK "democracy".


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Where is GF when I need him?

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 10:26 - 56442 of 81564

fred it stinks of corruption and is corruption .have gov cabinet ministers invested in hedge funds

cynic - 09 Feb 2015 10:36 - 56443 of 81564

naughty boy fred ..... i confess i haven't really looked at this story, but from what i gather much of this HSBC stuff dates back to around 2007/8 and earlier ..... am i wrong? ..... it would be ingenuous to think that all major banks from both uk and usa are not also involved

however, i thoroughly agree that HMRC is great at pursuing the easy targets - eg the chap who owes £500 to say £5,000 - but runs a mile from or makes a total cock-up of prosecuting the major players

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on that score, it'll be interesting to see how this very complex film investment case pans out, though that will probably run and run for another 2/3 years with the various appeals from whichever side

as i understand it, a good number of years ago, the gov't encouraged people to support the film industry, for which they received tax breaks

at least one of these companies invested in several films that were great box-office successes
HMRC is now arguing that the investment was just tax avoidance, and though not evasion, should still be classed as evasion



TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 10:48 - 56444 of 81564

Obama as made the USA the enemy of the free world . the yanks are fleecing all foreign companies to protect their or own companies . the world should start to kick out all American companies . mc donalds killing our children along with kc feeding them shit

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 10:52 - 56445 of 81564

the children eat because of the fat that is why they are fat the gov should close these places down or tax them heavy

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 11:19 - 56446 of 81564

all the talk on hsbc what about the gov allowing their backers to avoid tax and stamp duty . hedge fund gives the tory party 47b its stinks of corruption

TANKER - 09 Feb 2015 11:22 - 56447 of 81564

are they going to charge the very people who tried to avoid paying their taxes .
they are the criminals .
do the royals pay their taxes
do the cabinet
do the sports people
do the big companies

we all know the answers yet this gov turn a blind eye the old pals act
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