Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

"I think the tax system needs massive examination, simplifications and reforms
i thoroughly agree, though these things are never anywhere near as simple as kneejerk suggests"

Agreed. It is not simple but if we are going into a period of coalition government and hopefully over the next 10-15 year proportional representation it may be possible to re-examined the TAX SYSTEM and make it simpler and representative of the needs of a developing society.

Salaries and incomes and differentials etc. I am not against and although I see salaries have become a form of status symbol.

The purses having become so big they can't be carried any longer.

I think multi-layered tax system utilising "take home" pay and income may take care of some of the obvious abuses.

Tax dodging has to clamp down on.

But it is equality of opportunity for the younger members of society which has to be improved.
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PS,

We are being dragged into a period of "Democracy", which mimics the presidential system of the USA and being based more and more on slush funds and journalistic smearing. Cameron, Osborne, Shapps and the tory right winger are in their element.

true or supposition?
markets have not taken any notice

FFS fred!!!!
why do you have to make everything a party political platform????

in theory and for example, it should be very simple to clamp down very effectively on hidden/black (undeclared) o'seas bank accounts, and there is already european legislation in place for this (you should know; you watched panorama), but the swiss and probably the luxemburgers too, only pay it lip service

I thought the bit about the ex HSBC boss becoming a Lord and his new post , was particularly hard to take.

absolutely!
"nuffink to do wiv me; i was just the postboy"

Because politicians are the master of your fate!

Change in the tax system is generated out of what is considered politically sufficiently "acceptable" for one group to remain in "power" and "rule" and satisfy its supporters.

To introduce "change" you need the support of vociferous groups who present "policies" which appeals "in general" to the voters.

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Did Cameron say "Welcome to a Britain open for Business", or "Welcome to a Britain where you can dodge your taxes" and we will give you a nod and a wink especially for a small donation into the party funds or a job on the board!

oh yawn fred!

to repeat .......
there is already european legislation in place for this (you should know; you watched panorama), but the swiss and probably the luxemburgers too, only pay it lip service

But the tories want to lead us out of Europe.

Why?

Tories out in force for London fundraising ball

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/678bc932-b084-11e4-9b8e-00144feab7de.html#axzz3RLJnV9sI






. London, UK. NICKY MORGAN and MICHAEL GOVE arriving at the Grosvenor House in central London for the annual Conservative Party Black & White Ball, a Conservative Party fundraiser. Photo credit: Ben Cawthra/LNP©Ben Cawthra/LNP
Nicky Morgan (L) and Michael Gove (R) arrive at the ball

The Conservative party on Monday night auctioned off a shoe shopping trip with Theresa May, home secretary, and dinner at the Carlton Club with Sajid Javid, the culture secretary, at its final big fundraiser gala ahead of the general election.

More than a thousand City figures, business chiefs and entrepreneurs gathered at the Grosvenor House Hotel in central London for the lavish Black & White Ball, where party chiefs hoped to raise up to £3m for their election war chest.

The auction drew in hundreds of thousands of pounds for party coffers, with a night’s hire of private Mayfair club Annabel’s fetching £110,000. Other lots on offer included a trip on a private jet to Santorini, the use of a luxury 12-bed chalet in Verbier, a jogging session with Nicky Morgan, education secretary, and a “hearty weeknight roast chicken dinner” at chief whip Michael Gove’s home.


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I have always wanted to see Gove sitting on the pavement with cap in hand!

Napoleon.

Put up with the first 20-30 pages, the book then becomes very engaging. (Well it was for me, and reflects the 50s and 60s for many.)

I was born lucky and my guess so were you.

Napoleon.

Put up with the first 20-30 pages, the book then becomes very engaging. (Well it was for me, and reflects the 50s and 60s for many.)

I was born lucky and my guess so were you.

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Who would want to go on a jogging session with Nicky Morgan?

I see Sky have won the rights to The Open from I think 2017 . Peter Alliss not happy , shocking decision I think personally. The R & A say it's not the money. Yeh I bet.

Gipsy great-grandfather's body 'could be EXHUMED' - because family of Muslim in neighbouring plot don't want their relative buried next to a 'non-believer'
Shadrack Smith, 89, buried in multi-faith cemetery after death in January
Bereft family had paid £2,500 to buy three plots side-by-side at cemetery
Family who own neighbouring plot complained Mr Smith was not Muslim
Smith family claim they were told that Mr Smith's body could be exhumed
Council denies it is considering exhumation but said it was committed 'to reaching an amicable and acceptable solution'


you could not make it up if they do not like us non believers then take the bodies back to their home lands simple .
and posters on here say muslims are good people this says they are not

Boris Johnson calls for EU referendum to be brought forward

The Mayor of London has said that the referendum on the UK's continued membership of the European Union should be brought forward



By Peter Dominiczak, Political Editor

5:50PM GMT 10 Feb 2015


David Cameron should hold an in-out referendum on Britain’s membership next year to “get it done and knock it on the head”, Boris Johnson has said.


The Mayor of London, who is currently on a visit to America, said that a vote should be held as soon as possible because “this problem is not going away”.


He said that an un-reformed Europe is bad for Britain and said that there is “huge support” for the Prime Minister’s bid to renegotiate the UK’s relationship with Brussels before holding a referendum.


His comments follow reports that figures in Downing Street are exploring the possibility of holding the referendum next year.


However, there are concerns that holding the vote in 2016 will not give ministers enough time to renegotiate with Brussels.

Mr Johnson was responding to a call from John Longworth, the head of the British Chambers of Commerce, to hold the in-out referendum next year in order to end uncertainty for businesses.

The Mayor of London told LBC Radio: “That’s not a bad idea by the way. Let’s get it done and knock it on the head and do it for the good of Europe. This problem is not going away. The whole Eurozone is mired in low growth, low productivity, they have a very anti-competitive environment there, a terrible system of regulation coming from Brussels.

“We have huge support in Britain for a Conservative-led campaign to reform the EU and get some change.”



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11403933/Boris-Johnson-calls-for-EU-referendum-to-be-brought-forward.html

Don't worry Dave, even if the voters don't support you "We the Bankers and Tax Dodgers do".

And you can watch Georgie Boy and Me on the come dancing show to celebrate.

What has the tory under its present leadership lowered politics and said "democracy" to?