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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 16 Sep 2011 17:55 - 5711 of 6906

Your posts are getting worse.

"it would be a disgrace to allow palestians in to nato .
they voted for a terrorist gov in hamas and till they are voted out
no one should even talk to them "

You might consider attaining at least a bare minimum of education before posting on here. NATO is NOT the UN.

UN - United Nations a forum for discussing world issues and consisting of 193 member countries. Israel IS a member.

NATO - North Alantic Treaty Organisation consisting of 28 member countries and is mainly a military body and Israel is NOT a member. In fact no Middle Eastern Countries are members. It is essentially Europe plus the US and Canada.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm

The Palestinians did NOT vote for Hamas. The voters of Gaza voted for Hamas.

Haystack - 16 Sep 2011 19:56 - 5712 of 6906

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=238227

Egyptian ambassador asked to clarify statements

Foreign Ministry calls on Egyptian ambassador to Israel to explain statement that "peace with Israel is not sacred... can be changed."

Following statements made Thursday by Egyptian officials, including Prime Minister Issam Sharaf, that "the peace agreement with Israel is not sacred and is always open for discussion," the Egyptian ambassador to Israel was invited to the Foreign Ministry offices in Jerusalem on Friday for clarification.

Foreign Ministry Director-General Rafi Barak expressed indignation at the statements by senior Egyptian officials, including Sharaf. He stressed at the meeting to the Egyptian ambassador, Yasser Reda, that the agreements should be honored literally.

In an interview with a Turkish television station Thursday, Egyptian prime minister said the peace treaty with Israel is not sacred, and is always open for discussion. According to Sharaf, the agreement could be changed if it "would benefit the region and help create a just peace."

Thursday night about 200 people demonstrated outside the Israeli Embassy in Amman, Jordan, calling for the cancellation of the peace treaty between the countries.

Haystack - 17 Sep 2011 21:30 - 5713 of 6906

TANKER - 20 Sep 2011 08:05 - 5714 of 6906

watching the news last night about thepalestian farmer with is few goats and sheep
and saying that he is not interested in money it is way of life .
made me think more and he should and others be allowed to live there lives

Fred1new - 21 Sep 2011 11:11 - 5715 of 6906

Will USA veto Palestine bid?

If they do then the already opinion of USA (and Britain) will be even lower in the ME and lead to increasing problems.

Anybody guess the price of oil over the next few years?

Haystack - 21 Sep 2011 11:45 - 5716 of 6906

Of course the US will veto if Palestine get its 9 votes. The US is busily doing the rounds of the 15 to bribe a few to vote no so it can avoid using its veto. A number may abstain, such as the UK, Germany. The use of the veto will isolate the US and Israel.

Palestine will probably then go to the General Assembly, where they will easily get a majority of the 193 countries.The vote for them could be 160+. That will give them membership, although at a lower level. Even the lower level membership allows Palestine to go to the International Court of Justice to charge Israel with war crimes such as the continued settlement, the Gaza blockade etc.

cynic - 21 Sep 2011 12:34 - 5717 of 6906

as have voiced in the past, USA in this instance should be totally ashamed ..... it would be very easy to bring israel to the (sensible) negotiating table and to halt its continued building on the west bank - stop the aid for a bit and bingo

i don't think UK has much input here, and as far as i know, is not inclined to use its veto .... indeed, UK (FCO) has traditionally been quite heavily pro arab

Bernard M - 21 Sep 2011 13:11 - 5718 of 6906

Who gives a shit about them

cynic - 21 Sep 2011 13:22 - 5719 of 6906

about whom?

Haystack - 21 Sep 2011 13:29 - 5720 of 6906

The US has a poor history regarding Palestinian rights or attempts to solve the impass. It was 23 years ago that the UN General Assembly decided to briefly move its session from New York to Switzerland.

It was because the Palestine Liberation Organization head Yasser Arafat was to deliver a speech to the General Assembly of the UN. The US thought it could thwart the work of the UN and hold it to ransom by the U.S. Secretary of State George Schultz refusing to issue Yasser Arafat an entry visa to the United States. I remember the other members of the UN being pretty annoyed at the time.


Bernard M - 21 Sep 2011 13:40 - 5721 of 6906

Israel, and the Gaza dwellers they are killing.

cynic - 21 Sep 2011 14:02 - 5722 of 6906

i do - others can decide for themselves

Bernard M - 21 Sep 2011 14:04 - 5723 of 6906

Israel are bully boys.

cynic - 21 Sep 2011 14:24 - 5724 of 6906

i concur

Bernard M - 21 Sep 2011 14:27 - 5725 of 6906

And they want to join the UN lol.

cynic - 21 Sep 2011 14:33 - 5726 of 6906

surely israel are already part of UN

Bernard M - 21 Sep 2011 14:41 - 5727 of 6906

You could be right Mr.C

Haystack - 21 Sep 2011 15:28 - 5728 of 6906

Of course Israel is a member of the UN. They are one of the 193 countries that make up the General Assembly of the UN. They have been a member since 1949.

The Security Council has only 15 members. There are 5 permanent members (China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States) and another ten others that rotate from the 193. The current ten extra members are Bosnia and Herzegovina, Germany, Portugal, Brazil, India, South Africa, Colombia, Lebanon, Gabon and Nigeria. Some of those change this year and the rest next.

For Palestine to gain full membership they need at least 9 of the 15 to vote for them with none of the 5 permanent members voting against and none of the 5 permament memers using a veto.


Bernard M - 21 Sep 2011 16:25 - 5729 of 6906

Should be chucked out for violating human rights.

Fred1new - 21 Sep 2011 18:42 - 5730 of 6906

Who?

USA or UK or Israel?




















Or Russia, China or .............................
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