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- 03 Feb 2016 10:00
Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....
cynic
- 12 Apr 2016 13:12
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germany too has agricultural gastarbeite especially during the asparagus season
a few ago the authorities tried to tax these itinerant workers, so they refused to come
end result was that acres and acres - oh alright, hecatares and hectares - of asparagus never got to market
Stan
- 12 Apr 2016 13:33
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As stated many times before the evidence is that Low Wage, Longer Hours, little or no Pension Rip-off Britain was set up by the "Con"sevative Government in the 80's and largely maintained by "Tory" Blair in his tenure.. and the erosion has and is continuing now under this dreadful lot.
So as most of you lot on here voted for it election after election you can't complain.
However if you do want to have a chance of a change.. do stop voting for Right Wing Governments.
cynic
- 12 Apr 2016 13:35
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oh do shut up stan and stop just spouting party mantra
the referendum is far more important than just petty political sniping
jimmy b
- 12 Apr 2016 13:36
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Stan you voted for Blair your hero so don't start disowning him now.
grannyboy
- 12 Apr 2016 13:40
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Ho yes and i take it YOU are advocating to vote for a LEFT wing
government!!!..
It would'nt matter one way or the other what wing the government
of the day was, If there was a vote to remain in that corrupt,
undemocratic organisation in Brussels the RULES will come from there,
and the puppets in Westminster will carry their masters wishes out........
HARRYCAT
- 12 Apr 2016 13:56
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"....so they refused to come, end result was that acres and acres - oh alright, hecatares and hectares - of asparagus never got to market"..........Which kind of proves my point that the indigenous layabouts don't want to work hard for what the western Europeans call low wages.
cynic
- 12 Apr 2016 14:04
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certainly in 50/60s families, especially from east end and all around kent and essex used to go hop or fruit picking, and later in the year, potatoes
times,aspirations and living standards change
2517GEORGE
- 12 Apr 2016 14:06
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What about the foreigners who work but are not paid by the firm that 'employ' them for 6 months, for this period the foreigner claims benefits, courtesy of the UK taxpayer. After 6 months the firm decides whether to continue with the employment on a paid basis or release the worker.
2517
cynic
- 12 Apr 2016 14:12
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i don't understand the post george
Stan
- 12 Apr 2016 14:17
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A typical abusive response rather then admit your wrong Alf, and others not big enough either to own up.. but that comes as no surprise.
jimmy b
- 12 Apr 2016 14:25
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cynic a lot later than the 50/60's your well out of date , people were doing this recently .
cynic
- 12 Apr 2016 14:26
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not for hops they weren't!
english hop farms are all but extinct i believe, and the harvesting is done almost exlcusively by machine
jimmy b
- 12 Apr 2016 14:46
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No, fruit picking in the fields .
VICTIM
- 12 Apr 2016 14:55
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Just remember that Court case , where 107 eastern europeans were housed in an old factory , one toilet . The only way it was stopped was because neighbours complained . The owner and landlord was found guilty of something , but the court stated that he was paid I think £ 32,000 per month to house these people . they went back to their homeland after being looked after by local council . So that's how much it costs to just house them .
VICTIM
- 12 Apr 2016 15:05
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From that what gets me is that if these were our lazy lot ( not my thoughts ) would the government pay the lodgings for them to do this work and travel around Britain , I very much doubt it , but why so willing and easy to give it to foreign workers . Am I wrong .
VICTIM
- 12 Apr 2016 16:02
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So basically we the taxpayer are paying people to come hear and stay and the farmers get the profits but the taxpayer pays to keep them , and then buy the produce .
Fred1new
- 12 Apr 2016 16:19
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I can't understand why we got rid of the Workhouses.
The cons could win the next election if they brought them back.
Perhaps, introducing the birch or cat-o-nine tails for any who were too lazy through illness to work.,
Also, expanding the numbers of paupers' graves.
There is a business idea for Granny, Vicky and JB. The latter could provide the muscle.
Good old fashioned victorian standards for everybody except for those who have a little who avoid their responsibilities.
VICTIM
- 12 Apr 2016 16:24
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Boy your a weird one Freda .
VICTIM
- 12 Apr 2016 16:29
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I'd just like to know Freda , do you have more money going out of your household than you have coming in . How long would you last if so .
Stan
- 12 Apr 2016 16:44
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"VICTIM - 12 Apr 2016 16:02 - 593 of 596
So basically we the taxpayer are paying people to come hear and stay and the farmers get the profits but the taxpayer pays to keep them , and then buy the produce ."
My word.. I think he's got it -):