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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

2517GEORGE - 25 Mar 2015 09:18 - 57870 of 81564

Be careful what you wish for Stan.
2517

Stan - 25 Mar 2015 09:24 - 57871 of 81564

Wishing's for wimps George?... Wana buy a jumper JJ -):

cynic - 25 Mar 2015 10:17 - 57872 of 81564

following on from 57870, the obvious question then raises itself as to whether or not SNP MPs should have any say at all in issues that are not of scottish concern

Stan - 25 Mar 2015 10:22 - 57873 of 81564

The answer is yes.

Haystack - 25 Mar 2015 10:23 - 57874 of 81564

SNP threatening to vote down the Quern's speech if there is a minority Conservative government.

That would trigger a serious constitutional crisis.

It would be a serious problem for other parties as there would be another election, probably in the autumn and only the Conservative could afford it. The other parties are pretty much broke.

Stan - 25 Mar 2015 10:27 - 57875 of 81564

Irrelevant, The usual scaremongering/negative post from the extreme right.

cynic - 25 Mar 2015 10:29 - 57876 of 81564

stan - is that yes that scots should have a say in non-scottish debates, or yes that they should not?

Chris Carson - 25 Mar 2015 10:33 - 57878 of 81564

Will Alex Salmond ever shut up?
The man who lost the referendum on Scottish independence is swanning around like he owns the Union. How long will the English put up with him?

By Iain Martin9:42AM GMT 25 Mar 2015Comments47 Comments
It is becoming impossible to escape the defeated leader of the Yes campaign. Turn on a radio or the television and he is always there, burbling away about what is going to happen when he and the SNP are in charge of England. The man is so perpetually pleased with himself that he cannot get half way through a sentence without chuckling at his own amazing brilliance. In the excitement of the referendum campaign he seems somehow to have become convinced that he is absolutely hilarious.
I cannot account for whatever is going on inside that great big head of a gifted man who used to have a greater grasp of reality. Perhaps it is denial, or addiction to attention, or excitement about his return to the Commons (a place he loves).‎ Whatever it is, he is behaving as though Nicola Sturgeon is still his deputy and he didn't resign.


It looks from the outside as though he is getting rather carried away by the thought of wiping out Scottish Labour, when history suggests it is usually better to cut back on the cockiness until after the votes are cast and counted.
But as a Scot I worry about the impact of all this. It is is not just that Salmond and the most obsessive Nationalists are trashing the Scottish brand outside Scotland.‎ In the country itself, as Alex Massie has observed, the divisions of the referendum are also hardening into cold hatred. The so-called "zoomers" on the nationalist side will believe any crazy claim no matter how implausible. Polling even suggests that more than 50% of SNP voters think that the collapse in the oil price, which would punch a multi-billion pound hole in the finances of an independent or fiscally autonomous Scotland, is neither good nor bad for Scotland. That is mind-bendingly mad.

What worries me most as a Unionist is that in England more and more people I encounter just want the Scots, or the Scottish Nationalists who shout loudest, to stop whinging and whining. They ask: will Salmond ever shut up? Why, they ask, are so many Scots obsessed with talking about themselves in this grating manner? Indeed, Salmond's referendum has become a neverendum, in which the airwaves are dominated by smug Nationalists showing off their moral superiority complexes and boasting about how progressive they are. (That's the SNP, the party that savaged vocational education in Scotland's colleges to pay for the middle class perk of "free" tuition fees at Scottish universities.)
The tragedy in this for Scotland is that a great country that has long punched above its weight by being inventive and outward-looking is being steadily diminished by the boring chuntering of those who lost but want to keep going. Week by week, as they continue their destructive work, you can see Scotland shrinking.



Stan - 25 Mar 2015 10:33 - 57879 of 81564

Of course they should Alf, no reason why not.

jimmy b - 25 Mar 2015 10:46 - 57880 of 81564

I wish that horrible little jumped up Scotsman would just go away .

Stan - 25 Mar 2015 10:49 - 57881 of 81564

...Get Knitted JJ -):

cynic - 25 Mar 2015 10:49 - 57882 of 81564

of course you're right, at least for as long there is no vote in favour of scottish independence ... the SNP group is really no different from the welsh or irish boys

Stan - 25 Mar 2015 10:52 - 57883 of 81564

Assuredly -):

jimmy b - 25 Mar 2015 10:57 - 57884 of 81564

On a more serious note ,i wonder what brought that Plane down ? seems really strange .
That is three now with no explanation ..

Stan - 25 Mar 2015 10:57 - 57885 of 81564

Spooky isn't it.

cynic - 25 Mar 2015 11:01 - 57886 of 81564

the only reason there is "no explanation" is because the contents of the black boxes still awaits analysis

Haystack - 25 Mar 2015 11:02 - 57887 of 81564

Alex Salmond's comments are for a domestic Scottish audience. He wants to assure that denying Labour seats in Scotland, it won't produce a minority Conservative government. Of course, if he did vote down the Queen's speech, it would come back to bite him. It would, almost certainly, trigger a new election. The public would rightly be annoyed as it would take SNP plus Labour to vote down the speech. A new election would be an opportunity for the public to vent its anger at SNP meddling by giving Cameron a victory with a clear majority.

Haystack - 25 Mar 2015 11:04 - 57888 of 81564

Following a new election with a Conservative victory, there would be legislation passed very quickly to limit the powers of Scottish MPs. The Scots could also kiss goodbye to any further concessions.

Stan - 25 Mar 2015 11:08 - 57889 of 81564

Just speculating JJ, but maybe their is a new way of bringing down a plane using some new form of interference to a plane's electronics by terrorists?
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