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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 08 Apr 2015 13:46 - 58414 of 81564

certainly one of your less silly points :-)
i need to dwell on this - if i have time - for i know there is a hole in your argument

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at a tangent ......
given that air ambulance and lifeboats only survive by public generosity, should they refuse to come to your aid unless you can show financial support for them within say the last 12 months?

ExecLine - 08 Apr 2015 14:03 - 58415 of 81564

The situation is purely hypothetical and, if answered in a certain way, is slanted towards the creation of a precedent.

As such, it is best if it is never answered.

As and when a problem occurs, the reality of the situation can be used to determine how best to deal with things. It is highly likely in any event, that the patient would be treated compassionately. The precedent though, as referred to in my opening comment above, has not been created.

ExecLine - 08 Apr 2015 14:04 - 58416 of 81564

As with the air ambulance problem - compassion rules.

2517GEORGE - 08 Apr 2015 14:07 - 58417 of 81564

75% of ALL charities rely on/get funding from the government, ie the taxpayer.
2517

Fred1new - 08 Apr 2015 14:34 - 58418 of 81564

Is that tax relief on donations?

Fred1new - 08 Apr 2015 14:34 - 58419 of 81564

Is that tax relief on donations?

cynic - 08 Apr 2015 14:36 - 58420 of 81564

fred's comment actually highlights the sort of problems encountered when trying to formulate legislation

i certainly agree with the concept that to benefit from free health (or housing or unemployment or child benefits), then one has to have contributed to the system
i also concur with the concept that an immigrant would have had to contribute for a certain minimum period to qualify - to prevent short stay, milk the system and then clear out once more

with regard to health, it is perhaps not so difficult to grant exemptions in the event of "critical emergency" ..... however, it is asking for disaster if legislation is drafted intentionally with many grey areas; it's bad enough when that is not the intent at all!

"reasonableness" in legislation is also far too vague

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to pursue fred's question, and it can even be extracted from the emotional "worker in health care" .....

work-related injuries and the treatment for them could surely be covered by the company's insurance where there is a shortfall between the employee's entitlement and benefit claimable

outside the workplace, the "critical emergency" rule could be applied


i'm sure i have left lots of gaps, and no doubt fred or even others will quickly highlight same

Haystack - 08 Apr 2015 15:27 - 58421 of 81564

Labour say they will stop nom doms. The BBC is gleefully showing an interview with Ed Balls from two months ago. He says that there is no point in stopping it as it is unlikely to raise any money and would most probably cost the UK money.

Fred1new - 08 Apr 2015 15:28 - 58422 of 81564

Another few questions:

Does Eire count as overseas for non-doms?

Do trusts set up in Eire benefit from ngn-dom arrangements?

Does Gideon gain from such benefits?.

cynic - 08 Apr 2015 15:30 - 58423 of 81564

but it'll sound good at the hustings for it will please joe soap greatly .... and then it can be conveniently forgotten should labour actually have to formulate a budget

cynic - 08 Apr 2015 15:32 - 58424 of 81564

trusts are trusts and the sponsor cannot interfere with their running
trusts also have to be run for the benefit of the ultimate beneficiary
but you knew all that anyway - or didn't you know you didn't know? :-)

Fred1new - 08 Apr 2015 15:37 - 58425 of 81564

Haze, perhaps again you are missing the principles of the tax avoidance.

Also, if living in the UK with such "arrangements" the practitioners are using the UK and facilities to enable them to do so!


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But like the "basic wage" and other changes and the tory claims that there would be exit of jobs and the wealthy, it didn't happen.

2517GEORGE - 08 Apr 2015 15:53 - 58426 of 81564

Fred re 420 no, that is an additional payment by the taxpayer.
2517

ExecLine - 09 Apr 2015 00:00 - 58427 of 81564

For Fred to play around with:

http://cameronskitchen.co.uk/

Hey Fred! Hover your mouse around this for a while.....

Enjoy.

ExecLine - 09 Apr 2015 00:01 - 58428 of 81564

http://cameronskitchen.co.uk/

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 08:22 - 58429 of 81564

More interesting:



Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 08:23 - 58430 of 81564

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 08:25 - 58431 of 81564

But we are for Dave:

jimmy b - 09 Apr 2015 08:49 - 58432 of 81564

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Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 09:14 - 58433 of 81564

Can somebody put on his door, ' PLEASE DON'T DISTURB'!

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