Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Ed Milliband turned up and look what happened to him , the green oz women was all pie in the sky policy's, SNP wants to form a Labour/SNP government but at the same time wants to leave the UK, go and don't stick your nose into the English Parliament. They all turned on UKIP over Farage saying there should be a end to free NHS treatment for people who turn up from all over the World, and we often hear of foreigners having treatment over here and going home without paying

we often hear of foreigners having treatment over here and going home without paying

i have no idea of the quantum of this problem, but per earlier posts on this subject, except in the case of genuine "acute emergency", i fail to see why payment cannot be enforced at the door
this is standard procedure for any private clinic, whether for blood tests or surgical procedure
certainly, collecting after the event quickly becomes very time-consuming and thus expensive as any credit controller will tell you

cyners - 18 Apr 2015 10:30 - 58779 of 58779
"we often hear of foreigners having treatment over here and going home without paying" in the Daily Mail.

"i have no idea of the quantum of this problem"

It's a major problem to Daily Mail readers and bigoted UKIP voters. But, to normal, sane-minded folks, the numbers involved are negligible.

do you know the amount of money involved, or are you just speculating?

linked to that, do you have any objection to the concept that immigrants should need to have contributed to the system or to have lived and worked here for a certain amount of time before they qualify for welfare benefits?

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Max,

I would think the posters were probably put up by members of the lunatic fringe of UKIP!

My son did tell me the amount involved, Cyners - I can't recall how much it was because life's too short to worry about trivia like that, but it's not a great deal in the grand scheme of things.

In answer to your second question, it's not something I'm bothered about. But it does depend upon whether you're talking about EU or non-EU immigrants. If you wanted to limit or deny EU immigrants from receiving benefits or healthcare, you'd require a law change to make the same rules apply to UK nationals too.

"not a great deal in the grand scheme of things" can be an awfully large amount :-)

Pop over to la belle france hilly, trot down to the benefits office...see how far you get.

That also goes for healthcare of the non emergency kind.

I do pop over to la belle France regularly as it happens, Max, on account of how we own a few properties (mostly converted town houses, and some viagers) in Herault and Gard, and I spend my summers there. So yeah, I do know exactly how the French healthcare system works, and that's what you have insurance for.

But what has that got to do with anything that the UK does exactly?

i should imagine, along the lines that uk's magnanimity and generosity to eu and non-eu immigrants alike is unnecessary and unsupportable
btw, i don't think a change in law would be required, but solely to internal regulation and application

I thought it was Fred who was posting , not Hilary.

It's a major problem to Daily Mail readers and bigoted UKIP voters
Here we go again, talk about foreigners abusing the NHS , and the problems of mass uncontrolled immigration you are called a bigoted UKIP voter


on account of how we own a few properties (mostly converted town houses, and some viagers)

You want to get back and live like the normal working class have to live in overcrowded innner city's

What will he do for a vote?


He is a ??????

Classic :-)


hilary - 18 Apr 2015 14:24 - 58787 of 58790


I do know exactly how the French healthcare system works, and that's what you have insurance for.

perhaps the box should be showing a picture of Sturgeon, for EM would assuredly have his strings operated by her

not convinced Max, but whoever gets into Number 10 is going to have a very difficult time
i think another GE within 6/9 months is short odds indeed

even shorter odds is a highly volatile market which in itself gives opportunity to make (or lose) a lot of money ...... our marxist friend should have problems with his conscience for certainly he doesn't give any profits to charity

I suspect it wont the winner of the keys to number 10 who will suffer the most c.

I suspect us tax paying mug punters will be on the wrong end of that shit stick.


However, I will be voting ukip, not in any real expectation of a win, but if enough vote that way, we might send a message to the complacent ones.

The tories got a nasty shock down here in Hampshire with the €uro elections, but little has changed, they still think it is theirs by right.