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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new - 15 Mar 2012 11:28 - 5890 of 6906

How much Chemical war fare agents does Israel have in stock?

How effective is Iran Russian defence system?

Other than the Jewish lobby in USA does the population have any stomach for a full blown M.E. war?

I doubt it.

Obamma, is placating the Jewish lobby until after the election and Israel is trying to get its boot in during the lead up to it.

Also, the administration us attempting to distract attention from its continued land grabbing and human abuses.

ahoj - 15 Mar 2012 11:32 - 5891 of 6906

MORE IMPORTANTLY, neither Iranians nor Russians support their governments if they enter or dragged into any war.

People are now more friendlier than ever before. No talk of war by west as they are tried of war. So peace is coming much sooner than expected, so my post 5886.

TANKER - 15 Mar 2012 11:40 - 5892 of 6906

ahoj there will always be wars it suits the rich that is why they are rich and
keeps the population down or did

ahoj - 15 Mar 2012 11:48 - 5893 of 6906

Not anymore, just talk of war in the future. No action. IMO

TANKER - 15 Mar 2012 11:52 - 5894 of 6906

ahoj going to the beach for a walk it is these dogs they never have them on a leash
i will have a word with the council

Gausie - 15 Mar 2012 16:59 - 5895 of 6906

Ahoj

Disagree. I think it's escalating towards another military intervention.

There were over 200 rockets and mortars fired into Israel last night alone - roughly a million people had to spend the night in air raid shelters. You'd have to be daft not to expect a response soon.

G

Haystack - 15 Mar 2012 17:11 - 5896 of 6906

The problem for Gaza is that Hamas doesn't want the rocket firing, but Islamic Jihad in Gaza wants to destabilize Hamas by causing trouble. Hamas has been trying to move towards a more political stance because of their long term ambitions in the West Bank.

Apart from that I have no sympathy for those in Israel under bombardment. They have to remember that they are occupying someone else's country. This is just a response to Israel's actions against the Palestinians and Israel's constant land grabbing in the region.

It might come to a military intervention, but there will be a lot of pressure on Israel from the US not to go down that route. One advantage of a military option is that it will isolate Israel even further.

Gausie - 15 Mar 2012 17:19 - 5897 of 6906

The numbers are escalating. At least one rocket every day in the last 10 days of February, then 304 rockets and mortars in the first two weeks of March, and 200 last night.

Schools and universities in the region are currently closed, and the Israeli Home Front Command has barred all mass gatherings in southern Israeli communities.

I guess the only thing preventing a large scale counter attack is Haystack's words above. He's very influential, don't you know?

Haystack - 15 Mar 2012 17:27 - 5898 of 6906

Compared to what is happening in syria, a few people spending the night in a shelter as a response to their government's apartheid policies is a small affair. If they don't like it then pressure their government to stop their behaviour.

cynic - 15 Mar 2012 17:28 - 5899 of 6906

They have to remember that they are occupying someone else's country .... if you had omitted your standard rant of questionable validity, your comment would have carried more value - but you cocked it up yet again

cynic - 15 Mar 2012 17:29 - 5900 of 6906

5898 - the syrians tried that .... shame their arab friends and neighbours don't take a proper robust stance instead of hiding in their tents

Haystack - 15 Mar 2012 17:31 - 5901 of 6906

Israel is occupying the West Bank illegally and taking more and more land in that area.

The occupation of what is currently called Israel is another matter.

cynic - 15 Mar 2012 17:50 - 5902 of 6906

there you go again!
your comment that israel is acting reprehensibly in encroaching further and further on the west bank has much validity ..... whether israel should have any presence there at all is more of a grey area, but this pavlovian rubbish the occupation of what is currently called Israel that you always manage to tag in somewhere, just destroys any sensible argument that you may be propounding

will you ever learn?
i fear not

Gausie - 15 Mar 2012 17:52 - 5903 of 6906

The Israelis are facing a tough quandry.

Another military intervention? The last one proved effective for only a very short while before the missiles started raining in again.

A political solution - Demolish settlers houses and pull out? In the hope that Hamas will see sense? They tried that a couple of years back in Gaza too - and it was a disaster. Resulted in more attacks rather than fewer.

A blockade on ports and borders to prevent raw materials for rockets from getting in? That's been in place for years and seems entirely ineffective.

It pains me to say it but I think they have no option but to take the military option again. Maybe even take back the part of Gaza that they handed back. And I'd expect them to go in harder than last time, regardless of how disproportionate the world's media will paint it.

G

Haystack - 15 Mar 2012 18:07 - 5904 of 6906

It is not Hamas that is firing the rockets. They would be quite happy for the rockets to stop.

TANKER - 15 Mar 2012 18:09 - 5905 of 6906

cynic your posts are very good and true .
if i was the israelis i would go in and empty gaza
after i gave them notice that the next rocket we would send over hundreds of rockets but big ones

aldwickk - 15 Mar 2012 18:09 - 5906 of 6906

Post on ADVFN


i would personally much prefer to undo the damage already done by the anglo american tinkering and unrecognise israel as per pre 1947 when israeli terrorists bombed the british out of palestine and then grabbed all the land for themselves forcing millions of palestinians to live in refugee camps which still exist today!

TANKER - 15 Mar 2012 18:12 - 5907 of 6906

hay . and i do not believe in a god ,
so would have no regrets israel must
stop them like tonight i would noot allow them
to sleep at night

Haystack - 15 Mar 2012 18:13 - 5908 of 6906

Look at my post 5880. Several prominent Israels have also said that if they were Palestinians then they would be firing rockets as well.

Former kidnapped soldier Gilad Schalit's father Noam said Wednesday that if he was Palestinian he would try to kidnap IDF soldiers.

Schalit, who is running for a Knesset seat with the Labor Party, paraphrased former Labor leader Ehud Barak, who shocked many people when he told anti-Israel activist Gideon Levy in a 1998 interview that if he were Palestinian, he would have joined a terrorist organization.

“We also kidnapped British soldiers when we were fighting for our freedom,” Schalit said in an interview with Channel 10, referring to pre-state Zionist paramilitary organizations during the British mandate.

cynic - 15 Mar 2012 19:55 - 5909 of 6906

sorry, but who cares what you cut and paste .... you could find far as many nutters who would say that given half a chance they'ld drop a few bombs with anthrax spores on the palestinians

TANKS - try to differentiate between what i write quite seriously and what i write in jest ..... also, perhaps read the whole of the post :-) .... btw, i assume your nags are still running
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