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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 01 May 2015 03:05 - 59439 of 81564

Fred1new - 01 May 2015 07:53 - 59440 of 81564

Fred1new - 01 May 2015 07:54 - 59441 of 81564

aldwickk - 01 May 2015 08:25 - 59442 of 81564

Stupid ugly cartoon's , makes you wounder what the posters state of mind is

required field - 01 May 2015 08:32 - 59443 of 81564

Yes.....I think cartoons like Giles....and such are much better taste......some of these are just plain rude/dirty....

MaxK - 01 May 2015 09:00 - 59444 of 81564

Here's one for you rf, sums it up nicely!

Fred1new - 01 May 2015 09:19 - 59445 of 81564

LOL.

You will have to buy the "ghost" a gun boat!

cynic - 01 May 2015 09:41 - 59446 of 81564

a bit of a long article, though i've edited it a little, but interesting and worth the read .....

Australia to crack down on corporate tax shifting in budget
Australia plans to announce tougher rules on cross-border taxation in the upcoming budget to tighten loopholes that have allowed multinational companies to avoid paying taxes, Treasurer Joe Hockey told Reuters on Friday.

Australia has joined Britain in a crackdown on companies such as global tech giants , Apple and Microsoft over tax evasion, particularly the shifting of profits from high-tax countries to more relaxed regimes. ...

"We are proceeding with measures, working with the United Kingdom, that will strengthen integrity," Hockey said in an interview. "You'll see we'll release draft legislation around the budget which will indicate a strengthening of the integrity measures."

"It doesn't raise a lot of revenue, but it's an integrity measure," he said. "And it's vitally important, with the world's economy changing, that our tax system globally will have to change." Under Australia's leadership last year, the Group of 20 leading economies (G20) endorsed a set of common standards of sharing bank account information across borders with automatic exchange of information among its members. ...

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The United States backed that move, but has become concerned about Britain, Australia and other nations lining up against U.S. digital companies as they seek extra funds to trim budget deficits.

Hockey cautioned that a change of government in Britain could set back the international crackdown on corporate tax avoidance. Britain, which has a Conservative Party-led coalition government, goes to the polls for a general election on May 8.

"The UK under (Treasurer) George Osborne and (Prime Minister) David Cameron is leading the world in chasing down companies that are not paying their fair share of tax," he said. "Any change of government in the United Kingdom would obviously put that at risk." The Australian units of Google, Apple and Microsoft revealed earlier this year they were "under review" by the Australian Tax Office (ATO), which had declined to renew agreements with the companies on transfer pricing.

That accounting practice, under which a company sets internal prices for goods to its subsidiaries, has been blamed for helping large companies minimise their tax bills by lowering the cost of those goods to subsidiaries in high-tax regimes.

ExecLine - 01 May 2015 09:59 - 59447 of 81564

cynic

Thanks for that. Very interesting.

Just one thing though. I'm not doubting your honest or integrity but I think in posting what you have, and how you havedone it, you are settng a precedent on here which I utterly disagree with.

I will explain.

You don't reveal the source of the article.
You edit it up.
You expect us to trust you in the doing of it.

So the precedent is what?

Anyone can now post up an edited article, because you have set the pecedent for it, changing it to how they think fit, without revealing a source, because you have set the precedent for it, and also expect us to believe it is still pucker.

Here's an example. I will reveal the source at the end.

"Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, is to visit Moscow to mark the Soviet Union's victory in World War II and Russia will not refuse to meet Pyongyang's demands for special treatment for the young dictator.
A spokesman for the Kremlin announced on Thursday that Mr Kim had "not decided to stay in Pyongyang" and will ignore "internal issues".
The North Korean leader's visit with Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, apparently came as a surprise to Moscow, which only hours earlier had indicated that preparations for Mr Kim's first overseas visit since he inherited the country in December 2011 had been dropped."

Here's the source:

Source

If you check the original, you'll see I've edited it up to make it read exactly the opposite of what was reported.

How does anyone get to know that you are not doing the same, if you don't reveal your source?

aldwickk - 01 May 2015 10:24 - 59448 of 81564

Come on cynic , we know its HP

aldwickk - 01 May 2015 10:31 - 59449 of 81564

Exceline

What's the source of your post , have you edited it ?

cynic - 01 May 2015 10:33 - 59450 of 81564

el / aldo ...... nothing secret at all, so my apologies ..... it's from the BLT news on IG, and the report itself is via Reuters

the bits that i excised really were very minor indeed and were not relevant to this issue
i always try to edit to make things much more readable ..... feel free to mistrust my motives, and assuredly no offense taken :-)

cynic - 01 May 2015 10:35 - 59451 of 81564

below is the unexpurgated edition for your boredom :-) .....

INTERVIEW – Australia to crack down on corporate tax shifting in budget – Treasurer
01 May 2015 - 04:27


By Matt Siegel and Paul Ingrassia

CANBERRA, May 1 (Reuters) – Australia plans to announce tougher rules on cross-border taxation in the upcoming budget to tighten loopholes that have allowed multinational companies to avoid paying taxes, Treasurer Joe Hockey told Reuters on Friday.

Australia has joined Britain in a crackdown on companies such as global tech giants , Apple and Microsoft over tax evasion, particularly the shifting of profits from high-tax countries to more relaxed regimes. ...

"We are proceeding with measures, working with the United Kingdom, that will strengthen integrity," Hockey said in an interview. "You'll see we'll release draft legislation around the budget which will indicate a strengthening of the integrity measures." Hockey did not detail the content of the new legislation, but he has said previously he wanted to find a way for digital companies to pay the goods and services tax (GST).

"It doesn't raise a lot of revenue, but it's an integrity measure," he said. "And it's vitally important, with the world's economy changing, that our tax system globally will have to change." Under Australia's leadership last year, the Group of 20 leading economies (G20) endorsed a set of common standards of sharing bank account information across borders with automatic exchange of information among its members. ...

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The United States backed that move, but has become concerned about Britain, Australia and other nations lining up against U.S. digital companies as they seek extra funds to trim budget deficits.

"I understand the concerns of the United States government, but they've come a long way from the point where they were completely opposed to the proper tax of those entities to the point where they're reaching into other countries to collect the tax," Hockey said.

Uk Election
Hockey cautioned that a change of government in Britain could set back the international crackdown on corporate tax avoidance. Britain, which has a Conservative Party-led coalition government, goes to the polls for a general election on May 8.

"The UK under (Treasurer) George Osborne and (Prime Minister) David Cameron is leading the world in chasing down companies that are not paying their fair share of tax," he said. "Any change of government in the United Kingdom would obviously put that at risk." The Australian units of Google, Apple and Microsoft revealed earlier this year they were "under review" by the Australian Tax Office (ATO), which had declined to renew agreements with the companies on transfer pricing.

That accounting practice, under which a company sets internal prices for goods to its subsidiaries, has been blamed for helping large companies minimise their tax bills by lowering the cost of those goods to subsidiaries in high-tax regimes.

All three Australian subsidiaries denied any tax evasion. ...

The ATO is also conducting audits of 15 marketing hubs in Singapore and Switzerland that it expects will raise an extra $1 billion. The world's two largest miners – BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto – told an Australian Senate hearing last month that their Singapore units were being audited.

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Hockey is due to announce Australia's conservative Liberal Party-led government's budget on May 12.

(Writing by Swati Pandey; Editing by Jane Wardell and Ian Geoghegan) ((swati.pandey@thomsonreuters.com; +61 2 9321 8166; Reuters Messaging: swati.pandey.thomsonreuters.com@reuters.net; twitter.com/swatisays)

Keywords: AUSTRALIA ECONOMY/TREASURER TAX (INTERVIEW, PIX, T

MaxK - 01 May 2015 10:39 - 59452 of 81564

A link would be usefull c.

MaxK - 01 May 2015 10:43 - 59453 of 81564

aldwickk - 01 May 2015 10:45 - 59454 of 81564

cynic

There is no pleasing some people , lol

cynic - 01 May 2015 10:46 - 59455 of 81564

chuckle!
not that i know how to, but for sure one couldn't link to articles gleaned via IG

Fred1new - 01 May 2015 10:47 - 59456 of 81564

Pernickity!

Manuel,

Something I forgot.

Earlier.

You suggested Macmillan was responsible for Suez fiasco.

Try Eden instead.

cynic - 01 May 2015 10:48 - 59457 of 81564

quite so ..... Supermac was "wind of change" ..... and profumo too?

midknight - 01 May 2015 10:53 - 59458 of 81564

Cynic, I hope this helps all.
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