Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Another interesting article on different standards:

http://www.channel4.com/news/cameron-david-ian-jersey-tax-haven-conservatives
David Cameron's father left assets in tax haven


Prime Minister David Cameron's stockbroker father died leaving assets offshore in the tax haven of Jersey, a Channel 4 News investigation can reveal.

David Cameron (left) and his father Ian (Reuters)
By Guy Basnett and Paul McNamara

Ian Cameron's offshore wealth is revealed in a legal document filed with courts on the island, where he had helped run a multi-million pound investment fund.

It has previously been widely reported that David Cameron's father (pictured above right, with his son) helped manage funds in tax havens in Panama and Jersey.

However, this is the first time he has been shown to have personally held wealth offshore.


etc.
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The revelation that his father held wealth in a tax haven could be uncomfortable for the prime minister, who has previously called for a crackdown on tax avoidance, branding some schemes "morally wrong".

The prime minister brought leaders of British tax havens to Downing Street in 2013 for a meeting about tackling tax avoidance and increasing transparency.

He said at the time: "Let's be clear about why this tax issue matters. I mean, if companies don't properly pay their taxes, and individuals don't properly pay their taxes, we all suffer as a result. So it's important we do get our own house in order."

And Christine Keeler,

Probably he had his hands full!

mknt - i didn't need any help :-)

Watch Miliband get a roasting from a businesswoman:

grow up fred .....
1) when did DC's father die?
2) channel islands have long been legitimately used as a "tax haven" for family trusts and the like
3) channel islands accounts have always been readily opened for scrutiny by hmrc

and so on and so on

Some of our country's historical Earls, Barons, Dukes, Kings, etc, etc. were utter thieves and pirates and built enormous estates and wealth from their worldly pillaging.

So how far back should we go with family investigations?

http://order-order.com/2015/05/01/the-moment-miliband-claimed-labour-didnt-overspend/

EL - please name the exceptions :-)

Manuel,

Check and then answer your own questions.


To me it points to Cameron's and tory double standards and duplicity!

variation of trust deeds or whatever it was per EM?
and the difference is?

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september 2010 by the way

Has anyone got any idea of how many UK residents there are of voting age, ie if everyone who could vote voted, what would be the total number of votes cast.
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Exec,


the little bit of paper was a long-standing joke played used as a welcoming card to incoming chancellor's by previous incumbents. Including tories, eg. Reggie Maudling.

251,

Too many.

Too many to count!

2013 figure

The total number of UK parliamentary electors in 2013 was 46,139,900, a fall of 0.5% from 2012.

From the ONS site

Thanks H and you to red, so would around 6 or 7 million of those 46 million voters be from Scotland? The reason I ask is that why should the remainder, ie 39/40 million voters have to risk being governed by the SNP, a party they are unable to vote for or against. Just seems bazaar to me.
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More than four million people in Scotland have registered to vote ahead of the UK general election, almost 106,000 more than in 2010.

Just over 4.2 million people registered to vote in last year's independence referendum, the largest electorate ever recorded in Scotland.

But this figure included 16 and 17-year-olds who are not eligible to vote on 7 May.

The deadline for registering to vote in the general election is 20 April.

With the exception of 2009, Scottish electorates have increased each year since 2003.

Figures from the National Records of Scotland show that by 2 March a total of 4.04 million people in Scotland had registered to vote in the 2015 general election, around 94% if the adult population.

251,

The Scots are UK citizens.

Would you be prepared to disenfranchise the MPs they chose to elect.

I don't think much of 50% of tory MPs, but would not wish to disenfranchise those who elect them.

I can see the difference than having a bunch of SE and London orientated tory MPs dominating the tory policies.

If you don't like enough, change the voting system!

Miliband emulates Kinnock!

Fre, of course they are but they do have a full range of political colours to choose from, unlike the vast majority of voters in England. I suppose this has only really surfaced now due to Labour's share of the vote disintegrating, and the SNP becoming much more dominant than the bit-player in past elections. Similar scenario perhaps could arise in Wales.
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Are considering the vote is for the flag, or policies?

Not all tory MPs hold the same beliefs in party policies, but are prepared to journey under the same flag.

The core values of the SNP seem similar to Labour and lib /dems, even belief in Trident and are more prepared to accept secession of the Scots.

Cameron, naively stimulated the Scots by his "declaration" at Downing Street the day after the Scottish referendum for his own political advantage. It is now backfiring on him.