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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 03 May 2015 17:10 - 59558 of 81564

Manuel,

Go and help him at the table:

"That's a question I put to the prime minister.

Q: If you go back into No 10 on Friday, aren't we guaranteed two years of uncertainty about Britain's most important economic relationship - our membership of the EU? If that isn't chaos and instability, what is?

A: "Well the right thing to do with Europe is to have a strategy and a plan for securing Britain's future and that is what I have. I'm saying let's renegotiate, get a better deal that's put to the British people in an In/Out referendum… We've had so many treaties, we've had so many powers passed to Brussels, it's now time to make a change, have a better approach for Britain in Europe and for the British people to decide."

I suggested that "we've seen this movie before" in the 1990s when John Major was PM and there was a war between John Redwood and Ken Clarke. The Tory leader told me that this time would be different because the row then was about whether to have a referendum at all.


John Major and Kenneth Clarke in 1993

John Major and Ken Clarke's stance on Brussels was challenged by Eurosceptic John Redwood

What, though, is his Plan B if he can't persuade EU leaders to give him the better deal he says he wants, or if the British people reject it? It's a question I've asked him before - at last year's Conservative Party Conference - but he is no nearer to giving an answer.

If you don't get the deal and you don't get the referendum? What's plan B for Britain?

Fred1new - 03 May 2015 17:11 - 59559 of 81564

Help him out!

MaxK - 03 May 2015 18:05 - 59560 of 81564

dreamcatcher - 03 May 2015 18:53 - 59561 of 81564

MaxK - 03 May 2015 18:55 - 59562 of 81564

dreamcatcher - 03 May 2015 18:56 - 59563 of 81564

dreamcatcher - 03 May 2015 19:03 - 59564 of 81564

MaxK - 03 May 2015 19:24 - 59565 of 81564

Haystack - 03 May 2015 19:54 - 59566 of 81564

Labour plans to take us back to the stone age!

MaxK - 03 May 2015 20:10 - 59567 of 81564

Is Galloway the nu, nu labour guru?

Haystack - 03 May 2015 21:59 - 59568 of 81564

Labour faithful worshipping the monolith created by their beloved leader

Stan - 03 May 2015 23:38 - 59569 of 81564

The Right wingers have finaly flipped!

Fred1new - 04 May 2015 08:18 - 59570 of 81564

I wish his father had used one:


==-=-==

while the icon to NEW Toryism is a stand by in waiting!

Fred1new - 04 May 2015 08:23 - 59571 of 81564

Haze,

Can you pop down to Party Central Office and asked for the official information on any deals of Cameron and Lynton Crosby:

Tory election chief Lynton Crosby's firm planned to expand role of private healthcare in UK

MaxK - 04 May 2015 08:36 - 59572 of 81564

Chris Carson - 04 May 2015 08:52 - 59573 of 81564

Labour writes off three quarters of Scottish seats after SNP surge
Labour is now focusing on just 12 seats in Scotland as it faces electoral wipeout north of the border


By Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor4:34PM BST 03 May 2015
Labour has written off nearly three quarters of its seats in Scotland because of the rise of the SNP and is now focused on saving the careers of the party's leadership.
The party is now focusing on just 12 of its 41 seats in Scotland as polls suggest that Labour is facing electoral wipeout north of the border.
According to reports activists are now being focused on the constituencies of Jim Murphy, Labour's Scottish leader, Douglas Alexander, the shadow foreign secretary and Margaret Curran, the shadow secretary of state for Scotland.
The approach has provoked fury among Labour MPs, who have accused the leadership of "abusing" the machinery of the Labour party as part of an anti-decapitation strategy.


According to the Sunday Herald, Mr Alexander is getting two Labour party staff organisers in Paisley Renfrewshire South, where he is defending a 16,614 majority.
A poll last week suggested that the SNP is on course to win every seat in Scotland amid concerns that Ed Miliband, the labour leader, has become politically toxic north of the border.


Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, this week described the potential chaos of a Labour government propped up by the SNP as "Ajockalypse now".
He told The Sunday Times that it would lead to a "chaotic and tense arrangement" as Mr Miliband is held to ransom by Nicola Sturgeon, the leader of the SNP.
Several polls have suggested that the Tory message of the risks of a Labour government supported by the SNP are helping sway undecided English voters.


David Cameron, the Prime Minister, reiterated the warning. He told the BBC: "I'm saying that the best way to save the country is to have a government that would work for the whole of the UK, that is not reliant on nationalists from one part of it, and that is a Conservative majority government. I am fighting the SNP with everything I've got. I totally disagree with them about their plan to break up the UK.
"This potential alliance of people wanting to break up the country, of people wanting to bankrupt the country, is incredibly dangerous for our country and that's why I'm warning so vigorously if people have got four days to stop it. I've got the answer: If you vote Conservative, it won't happen."



Fred1new - 04 May 2015 08:59 - 59574 of 81564

Max,

Does you wife know you are posting pictures of her?

I suppose it is what turns you on!

MaxK - 04 May 2015 09:04 - 59575 of 81564

Stop being a fuddy duddy Fred, you know it's a good laugh.

Anyway, the blessed Nicola would kill for a bod like that :-)

MaxK - 04 May 2015 09:16 - 59576 of 81564

Is this more to your liking Fred?


Chris Carson - 04 May 2015 09:22 - 59577 of 81564

Election debate: Murphy accused of benefits ‘lie’


00:04Monday 04 May 2015 13:18Sunday 03 May 2015
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HAVE YOUR SAY
SCOTTISH Labour leader Jim Murphy has been accused by the Conservatives of peddling “an outright lie” about benefit sanctions for jobseekers.

Mr Murphy said there is a “deliberate policy” at the Jobcentre under the Conservatives to sanction benefit claimants no matter what they do.

Labour are Scottish patriots who believe in the need for change and stand for social justice
Gordon Brown
He said one of his constituents was sanctioned “because he went for a job interview”, during a heated exchange with Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson in the final televised debate of the election campaign on BBC Scotland.

SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon and Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Willie Rennie are also taking part in the debate.

Ms Davidson said that Mr Murphy is “peddling a falsehood that he knows is fictitious”.

She said: “I get quite angry in this debate that the other three people here say that we shouldn’t want to reduce our benefits bill, that we should want to leave people on benefits, not try and get them into work.

“With 174,000 more people in work, I don’t believe that no-one has potential. I don’t believe that anyone should be left on benefits.”

Mr Murphy said: “We have got to get the benefit bill under control, of course we do, but I don’t care that you are angry.


“I’m angry about the fact that under your government more and more people have had to go to foodbanks.

“I’m angry that your government, as a deliberate policy, has a target that no matter what your behaviour you will get sanctioned by the Jobcentre and won’t find out about it until you go to the hole in the wall to get your cash and find out that you have got no money.

“You then go to a high street money lender that you can’t afford, or you go to a foodbank when you can’t feed your kids.”

Ms Davidson said: “It’s not true - I have heard Jim use that line before.




“Now I love the cut and thrust of the debate, but I always try to be respectful and I always try to use parliamentary language so I am sorry that I am going to have to use unparliamentary language.

“That is an outright lie. It is a falsehood. It is made up. He is peddling a falsehood that he knows is fictitious.

“I went and checked when he first started talking about this before and it turns out it is utter nonsense.”

Mr Murphy said: “How dare you call me a liar? How dare you deal in that sort of way?

“Your government has sanctioned tens of thousands of Scots who are doing their best to find work.



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Jimbo, ` how dare you call me a Liar, how dare you you act in that sort of way` what everyone else was thinking was just a wee bit different, How dare Ms Davidson tell the truth !!!! Something Jim ( my word is my Bond) has a fleeting relationship with. Jim, name these companies, name these imaginary constituents. No?? didnt think so. Jimbob at last exposed for what he is ( a duplicitus self serving individual) on a BBC programme , heads will roll for that



Murphy is one of these people who believe if the audience doesn't agree with him when he speaks quietly then they are bound to agree when he shouts.

That moment when he feigned offence at Ruth Davidson's implication that he is a liar was pure theatre. For probably the first time in her political career Ms Davidson represented the view of a large number of Scots.


There have been two economies running in the UK, since at least the early 1970s - The one in London & the Home Counties & the one for every other area

Guess which one now has 50% of constituents worrying about inheritance tax ( Source - the Telegraph) & which of the economies has the most social deprivation, low wages & food banks?

Which economy have the Westminster political Cabal ("Left" & Right) favoured at every turn?

& some Scottish people are still going to vote Labour?


Whats new - Renfrewshire got a crook when people unknown to them - voted for Jim Murphy to be an MP.

On Thursday - they got a chance to get rid of him once and for all.

It be good to see the SNP flood Renfrew with with 10,000 of their new activists.

Seeing a clean sweep of Ponzie Labours politicians - from the Scottish political scene - will be one of the happyest days of my life.

Scotland wants justice on behalf of our Ma's and Da's who Labour politicians took advantage of for decades.

After fifty years of Labour control - look at the state of oil rich Scotland - it will take the SNP at least forty years - to claen up Labours social shambles.

Remember - Labour politicians got rich - while the silent majority got poorer.
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