Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Still haven't made my mind up.....no border controls within the EU is not a ggod idea....some migrants yes but each one has to be vetted....if you take a look at some of the wannabe immigrants : you take a fright !....

Nobody has come up with a list of how much it will cost (I mean a detailed list) to each person leaving in Britain if we stay in or if we opt out...I mean groceries...petrol/diesel/gas...utilities...transport/health...everything...at the moment : everybody is in the dark as what will happen....and when...all you hear is the overall call vote out or remain in.....let's have some figures and facts/costs ....

Leave it to me RF.. I'm on the case -):

There are three kinds of lies, lies, damn lies and statistics. Both camps will try to seduce us with figures to suit their cause. For me the deciding issue is our inability to deport career criminals and whatever fudge is made to the Human Rights Convention the UK can never be anything other than subject to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights whose bonkers judgements have cost us a fortune in legal costs for both sides and a lifetime of benefits for the scum allowed to remain because the human rigths of the majority are over ruled time and again. Rant over.

The bosses of about half of Britain's 100 biggest companies are to sign a letter backing David Cameron in his fight to keep the country in the EU in the referendum in June that will shape the future of the UK. As Tory opposition to the prime minister's strategy mounted, Downing Street rallied the backing of corporate leaders at companies including Shell, BAE Systems, BT and Rio Tinto, who will argue in the letter that Britain is "stronger, safer and better off" in a reformed EU. - Financial Times.

It'a cheap labour for a lot of the big companies .

Agreed.

I frankly think that (even though I'm still undecided) that the UK will vote to remain in the EU.....it's the uncertainty of what opting out offers that will tip the balance in favour of the common market....the bookies think so as well.....

OUT

Being part of a planet is enough. A planet with hundreds of countries, most of whom are not in. We don't need to be part of a clique.

I never like unnecessary additional tiers of government; they all cost money. Money that comes from all of us and is soaked up by thousands of administrative staff and hundreds of plane flights back and forth by politicians. Hotel expenses galore. And so many committees spending thousands of hours making decisions that don't need making - just for something to do.

Scrap the whole wasteful game. It's as pointless as the wretched Eurovision Song Contest

The Eurovision contest is good. Roll on May. :-))

Wow. Mervyn lands a mighty punch:

ex Bank Of England governer forecasts EU collapse

I think that most people don't know which way to vote....I am very much in two minds....I am angry at the common market for not clamping down on this illegal immigration....I have nothing against those who have a legitimate right of abode in the UK ...but the migrant issue is getting out of hand....

Express today - In a massive rebuff to the Prime Minister, a survey of almost 150,000 people found around nine out of ten want the UK to withdraw from the European bloc.


Last night, of 148,577 votes cast an astonishing 87 per cent - around 129,261 - said that they will vote to leave the EU in the referendum planned for June 23.

Just 10 per cent - 14,857 - will vote to remain while three per cent are still undecided.

Seeing as 'Call me Dave' along with many others in Brussels is pushing for Turkey to be fast tracked into the EU, having the prospects of another 75 million immigrants rushing over the continent to get to the UK is horrendous...You've also got several other countries wanting to join, ALL low wage earning countries like Bosnia., etc...

If I have a vote ( I live in Spain now ) I would vote OUT. It seems we are subsidizing these nations in the EU and the bloated Eurocrats in Brussels and elsewhere.
In spite of the fear tactics we are hearing I think we would be a richer country OUT.
We could still have EU relationships for internal security, and environment issues, etc, which would be mutually beneficial and they need our trade as much or more than we need EU trade. The £ has fallen a little recently because of this uncertainty, but I doubt it will fall to Euro levels ( Greece - disaster, Turkey want in EU, Spain unemployment problem, France not so great economically, and Germany may soon have political problems after Merkel goes, is there an EU country prospering just now ? ) Do not listen to Cameron, he has to say he has done a good job getting better conditions from EU and the Chancellor needs to support him - better we are OUT and our own boss again I say. Maybe Money AM can arrange tick boxes or something for IN or OUT ?

People living in other Countries having a vote on what we want or don't want in this Country?

No.

I want out.

Lıved and worked for a number of years ın Germany Sweden Belgıum.

Loved every day of ıt.

Now when returnıng, these countrıes have been hıjacked by a project that ıs systematıcally destroyıng all theır herıtage. Just as ın UK.

I am cannot see why any elected polıtıcıan would want to gıve up a democratıc rıght that was ın place for centurıes ın UK.

Controllıng your own destıny must surely be fırst prıorıty no matter what colour rosette you are affılıated too.

Latest EU joke:

MEPs can claim £120,000 a year in expenses without providing “real proof" of how the money is spent, because EU officials don't want to saddle them with an "administrative burden" which would hamper their freedom, a court heard.

EU expenses chief Frank Antoine-Poirel said that only on “very limited occasions” would MEPs be asked for “real proof” of where MEPs allowances ended up.

Mr Antoine-Poirel, head of the EU’s Parliamentary Assistance and Members' General Expenditure Unit, admitted he had never seen the bank accounts of long-serving Labour MEP Peter Skinner, who is accused of using his expenses to pay £10,000 to his ex-wife.

Skinner, 56, is also alleged to have used some of the cash to repair the gearbox on his ex-wife Julie Skinner's Land Rover Discovery and funded hotel stays, restaurants and jewellery by claiming a maximum £480,000 for support staff over five years.

One of the original reasons for forming a european community was to try and reduce nationalistic fervour and in that way try and reduce the risk of war within Europe. Many people who took part in the formation of the European Union were alive when the two world wars decimated millions of lives. I'm still in the 'undecided camp', but apart from isolated conflicts, my generation has had a much more peaceful time than those before me.

UK citizens living abroad for less than 15 years can vote I believe.