Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Isn't just great that we don't have a Labour government. When Miliband took the loyal oath in the Commons he went to shake hands with the Speaker and knocked over his glass of water and spilt it over himself. Good riddance Mr Bean!

hays - an apparent valid point of fred's though i don't think it actually is ......

do you know why this "new" bill of rights is not in the queen's speech? ...... to the best of my knowledge - ie updated this morning - it's still very much on the agenda

It will be in the Queen's speech.

As I posted that she said "My government will bring forward a Bill of Rights".

so fred is talking through his arse for a change then

What is going to happen is that the timetable for the Bill will allow longer to consider the details. I guess they have pushed it back slightly due to some opposition from members of the Conservative party. They won't want to deal with any minor rebellions too early in the Parliament.

Will a british bill of rights be worth a toss if the €uro courts have primacy?

Pie in the Sky again for hard working people!

What a load of b.s.!

This government is hoisted by their own petard!

LOL.

Postponement!

8-)


Watered down and peed out dreams. empty and false promises.

Does Cameron have to sign the "pledge"!

That is the point. Our courts will have primacy. The provisions will be virtually the same. We had a convention for human rights as far back as 60 years ago. The Human Rights Act in 1998 made very little changes except to give primacy to the EU court.

Thanks Haystack.

Now all they need to do is sort out the loony fringe on the judicial side.

Several key judges came out a couple of days ago and voiced support for the Bill of Rights.

Flippin heck Fred are you still angry ?

fred is always angry (his piles must be giving him grief again), always predictable and always incapable of posting a balanced view, so why would you ever expect anything sensible from that quarter?

a major question must be whether or not we can throw out the european human rights act and still remain within eu without a treaty change from that quarter
and no, i do not know the answer, but hays may well do

Laughable.

A queen's speech produce by a bunch of spivs and barrow boys.


They should be working for FIFA!

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By Ben Riley-Smith, Political Correspondent

12:00PM BST 27 May 2015

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/queens-speech/11632628/Queens-Speech-2015-All-the-new-bills-proposed-by-David-Camerons-government-a-glance.html


David Cameron promised a Queen's Speech to 'bring Britain back together'. Here is a list of the key laws outlined in Parliament today.



1 Enterprise Bill: Cut red tape to help save businesses £10 billion, improve business rates system and create new body to help resolve company-to-company disputes.

2 Full Employment and Welfare Bill: Benefit cap to be lowered to £23,000 while there will be a “freeze” on most working-age benefits, tax credits and child benefit for two years.

3 Personal Tax Allowance: Allowance to increase to £12,500. Will continue to rise to ensure minimum wage earners working 30 hours a week will be taken out of income tax.

4 Tax lock commitment: No income tax, VAT or National Insurance contributions rises before 2020.

5 Childcare Bill: Double the amount of free childcare to 30 hours for three- and four-year-olds.

6 Housing Bill: Build more “starter homes” to be sold at a 20 per cent discount for young first-time buyers.

7 Energy Bill: Create the Oil and Gas Authority (OGA) and give local communities will have the “final say” on wind farms.

8 Immigration Bill: Make ”illegal working” a criminal offence and extend the principle of “deport first, appeal later” to all immigration cases.

9 Trade Unions Bill: Block strikes unless 40 per cent of all eligible union members vote for industrial action.

10 Education and Adoption Bill: Create new powers that will allow “coasting” and failing schools to be converted into academies.

11 EU Referendum Bill: Holding an In/Out vote on Britain’s membership of the European Union by the end of 2017.

12 Health and Social Care: Increase funding to £8bn extra a year by 2020 and create a seven-day NHS.

13 Cities and Local Government: Deliver growth deal for Greater Manchester and "Northern Powerhouse" plans.

14 State Pension: The state pension will be protected by a "triple lock", rising in line with the highest of growth in earnings, inflation or 2.5 per cent.

15 Scotland Bill: Implement the Smith Commission, which gives the Scottish Parliament controls to set income tax bands and change welfare policy.

16 The High Speed Rail Bill: Paves the way for the first stage of the railway from London to the West Midlands.

17 English votes for English laws: Create “fairer procedures” to ensure decisions affecting England can only be taken with consent of most English MPs.

18 Extremism Bill: Create powers to ban extremist groups, close radical mosques and allow Ofcom to better control extremist broadcasts.

19 Police and Criminal Justice Bill: Limit initial pre-charge bail to 28 days as normal, with any extensions beyond three months needing judicial approval.

20 Psychoactive Substances Bill: Dealing legal highs to become a criminal offence with up to seven years in prison.

21 Proposals for a British Bill of Rights: Proposals for new legislation to replace the Human Rights Act.

JB,

Not your girl friend again?

Get her to clean her teeth.

i am getting very tempted to put fred in a padded cell, for which the squelch button will have to suffice here ...... he really is being even more tiresome and prattish than usual