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The Forex Thread (FX)     

hilary - 31 Dec 2003 13:00

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Robb - 26 Sep 2006 09:32 - 6072 of 11056

goforit, chocs - thanks

bakko - 26 Sep 2006 09:35 - 6073 of 11056

I was expecting a paint drying session till US data later but cable's fallen off the back of a fall in the euro. I think some German data has put the brakes on an ECB rate hike.

bakko - 26 Sep 2006 09:38 - 6074 of 11056

Robb...Take a look at FXCM. I've just opened an account with them having been very impressed with their demo platform which you can download for a 30 day trial.

goforit - 26 Sep 2006 09:51 - 6075 of 11056

bakko - read the punters reviews for fxcm on goforex, they sound like an american version of cmc

hilary - 26 Sep 2006 10:46 - 6076 of 11056

I thought long and hard about making this post, basically because I don't want to get embroiled in yet another "which broker mugs their punters" debate.

I do think though that the problem most punters have is that they take a too short term view of their trade. Anybody scalping for a few pips here and there is always going to have a problem with getting positions away as everybody tries to scramble in or out. Equally, tight stops are always going to get gunned because they're there to be gunned. These scenarios are going to happen regardless of which broker you use.

By the same token, I'm yet to be convinced that CME contracts are the answer either. I've watched one side of the book disappear within a zillionth of a second and the spread open up to 20 or 30 pips. When all of the punters try to trade in the same way at the same time, your broker needs to hedge quickly. If he's unable to hedge, he's not going to let you trade. Simple as that.

I really do think that the only eeffective answer is to take a more relaxed and philosophical longer term view of the market. Then you don't have a problem with brokers. It's quite easy to just take 1 position a day and close out in the evening and it's certainly less stressful. The ultimate reward is to pyramid into a winning position and ultimately close out after a week or more. No broker is going to get the hump with you if you adopt that style. And if you're looking for a trade of 100 pips plus, you're not going to get too upset if you mess your entry or exit up by few pips.

hilary - 26 Sep 2006 10:53 - 6077 of 11056

I've got to say that I was a bit worried when I looked through Choccie's list and saw mgforex.com.

:o)

chocolat - 26 Sep 2006 11:11 - 6078 of 11056

I worry about him anyway :o)

Well I got stopped out early this morning at 85 :)
Shorted at 95 and just closed for 50
Staying out for now - looks like it's wrestling with another line, but I'm off into the garden now for an hour's therapy with some slugs.

PS Nice to see you around Rob :)

bakko - 26 Sep 2006 11:26 - 6079 of 11056

Cable's holding on my rising support line from 11th Sept.

Ready for a bounce?

chocolat - 26 Sep 2006 11:36 - 6080 of 11056

Watch Sterling. It's taking a run at 0.67 :o)

mg - 26 Sep 2006 12:27 - 6081 of 11056

Oi ...... what's wrong with my new venture. Pay me loadsa money and I'll show you how to do it.

Next week I'm setting up mgftse.com :)

goforit - 26 Sep 2006 13:42 - 6082 of 11056

I would just like to say that I totaly agree with what hilary said in post 6076

I can only say what works for me. I have come back to trading after a break of 4+ years. I am recently separated(about 2 years) and was then made redundant. Life became pretty negative and after about 6 months came to my senses and realized I had a tremendous opportunity and made a decision to relocate to Spain.

I decided that I would start with a smallish amount of money and if that ran out I would probably have a very serious think about whether to continue or not. At the moment I only trade fx and thats mostly cable(reason being that more pips seem to be up for grabs). Before the summer I was scalping and catching the odd big move. In about a seven month period my account was down 25%. I reread elders book"come into my trading room" and have altered my trading to concentrate on larger moves using a more disciplined approach. I am starting to use market orders more(particularly for entry and exit) as this removes alot of the emotion out of trading!
I have had a couple of instances where I have nearly pulled my market orders(before the summer I would probably have ended up trying to scalp the other way), had faith in my trading system and left the orders and sofar have proved to be nearly all good trades. The last of these was last night! My account from early august at the weekend was up nearly 50%. I would say that I have traded ok, I think if I had traded well you could almost double that figure. I have made a conscious effort to stop giving money back to the market (which basically means stopping doing stupid trades, in my case scalping). I use quite a simple system which I am still developing(don't want to spend hour upon hour infront of my computers, don't want stressful trading because its bad for your health and I like to lead an active outdoor life), and have come to the same conclusion as hilary that for me to take 100+ pip trades is the right way for me to go

Sorry if I've bored anyone, take care and trade with discipline


Seymour Clearly - 26 Sep 2006 13:52 - 6083 of 11056

gfi

Nice post - that's what I'm trying to achieve as well, and like you, I agree totally with Hilary - give your provider room to cover your positions by making them longer term and get the bigger moves.

Hope the new life works out OK for you.

I am now short from 963, bit rash going into news but will watch & see, then sensible s/l before I start work.

edit s/l on now. Probably a bit tight but will leave it alone and see what comes.......

goforit - 26 Sep 2006 14:59 - 6084 of 11056

stopped out from last nights trade for 40 +, probably had my stop to tight but not comfortable with the trade

Robb - 26 Sep 2006 15:18 - 6085 of 11056

Hils, agreed ref timescale. A lot of the negatives I read seem to be from people with gripes about the spread widening when they are trying to jump in on the back of big news announcements. I'm more interested in platform/chart reliability and ease of account maintenance.

Chocs, likewise m'dear. First school holiday to deal with this year so decided easiest thing was to take the summer off and it was a smasher :-)

Talking of mgforex, how is his holiness, is he still at large?

Robb - 26 Sep 2006 15:20 - 6086 of 11056

ooops, just spotted him

bakko - 26 Sep 2006 16:32 - 6087 of 11056

Cable's bounced off my rising support line 3 times today.

I'm long from there and hoping for it to head due north

MightyMicro - 26 Sep 2006 16:56 - 6088 of 11056

Oi, you lot, some of us have to do seem real live currency trades soon (USD->GBP), so please could you arrange for a massive drop in Cable? Thank you for your assistance.

hilary - 26 Sep 2006 17:05 - 6089 of 11056

Oh dear. I can smell Toasted Fairy.

:o)

Seymour Clearly - 26 Sep 2006 17:17 - 6090 of 11056

Setting my stops too tight :-((

Back to the drawing board.

All my macd's are point down on the 1 hr charts apart from the 200 and they're all looking like we should go down, just irritated I set my stops too tight. Anyway, you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Apparently.

hilary - 26 Sep 2006 17:24 - 6091 of 11056

Don't give up on it, Seymour.
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