Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

while the uk is offering free b&b and stays in luxury hotels plus pocket money to the migrants they will never stop coming

and what is that idiot cameron doing turning to the eu for help on the calais problem - eu caused the problem

and what happened to the migrants 'should stay in the first country they arrive at' rule!? italy and others just turn a blind eye and let them through

so the brits pick up these people from boats saving their lives - then they all head here - wonder why?!

and why has everyone forgotten that these boat people have chucked overboard so called christians to their deaths? why is this forgotten

we know nothing about these people - they could be isis, murderers, rapist et cetera - they all arrive without papers with some sob story a do gooder believes and we cant even prove what country they come from let alone their criminal records or even the state of their health - mind boggling stupidity

and dont send sniffer dogs!! send guard dogs! i have seen these people in london scared of dogs - some because of their religion others because they are just cowards - time to get tough

britain is finished if this does not stop quickly

and stop all foreign aid! we need it here to deal with our own mess

look after your own - once that is sorted then we can look to help other countries - not the other way round - having said that the majority of the aid never gets to what it is meant for anyhow.....................

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and why has everyone forgotten that these boat people have chucked overboard so called christians to their deaths? why is this forgotten

we know nothing about these people - they could be isis, murderers, rapist et cetera - they all arrive without papers with some sob story a do gooder believes and we cant even prove what country they come from let alone their criminal records or even the state of their health - mind boggling stupidity

and dont send sniffer dogs!! send guard dogs! i have seen these people in london scared of dogs - some because of their religion others because they are just cowards - time to get tough



I doubt that all have forgotten, but think many would put you in the same category of humanity as the ones you condemn.

so fred, are you advocating total open-door policy?

Maybe Fred's door is open. He may have some empty beds that could be occupied by some immigrants.

fred - no just being realistic as other countries have also said about them: 'we do not want them to die but equally we do not want them over here' do you get it

britain has become the worlds dustbin - those who add value are leaving britain - those who add nothing are filling the country up - worse they have never paid any taxes or anything and yet they arrive and immediately take scarce housing and get paid for breaking the law - we do not know anything about these people and some have already murdered on the way over throwing whom they consider to be christians over board to their deaths
the uk is a small over populated island - we can not take anymore simple - and when you read the immigration figures that does not include all the children they bring with them
the uk infrastructure cannot take it and this is the reason why hospitals, nhs, housing and others are not coping

do your do gooding when they start living near you............

and i dont condemn them - just being honest and applying common sense something our leaders are too scared to do

or is being honest not a PC thing to do in your mind! not liberal are we...............

Something you might like to try in between your LLOY trades. Namely, making a hologram with your smart phone:

so fred, are you advocating total open-door policy?

It's ok, Fred has it all under control..



Kent pays migrant kids' £150 Dover-to-London cab fare due to lack of local foster homes

Local council struggling to cope with huge surge in young asylum seekers, as Calais chaos deepens




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11779325/Kent-Council-pays-150-taxis-to-get-young-asylum-seekers-out-of-county-amid-foster-care-crisis.html

I suppose they have to find the money from somewhere....


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/pensions/11779255/Thousands-of-pensioners-face-tax-returns-or-fines-under-saving-revolution.html

i thought fred might like to answer for himself .... he's very adept at answering straight questions

As promised, the torrid government has sure got the problem under control.

Hear Captain Marvel has packed his cases and gone on holidays!

I suppose better than bedding down in the no 10 bunker or on the Thames Embankment!

are you not answering my very straightforward question fred?

lest you missed it ......
so fred, are you advocating total open-door policy?

MaxK i found both your above posts very depressing , this has gone mad now ,something drastic has to be done .

Manuel,

You are a big boy new, although with a lot less grey cells than average, or what you started off with.

But with your pedigree I am sure with a little effort and a lot of thought, (for yourself), you maybe able to answer your own questions for yourself.

You may not like the reflections or the answers.

But, of course, England is an island unto itself and is becoming more isolated internationally.

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PS, I thought the government was responsible for protecting its own borders.

Manuel.

Ps.

At the moment, Cameron and crew are concentrating on the signs and symptoms of the "immigration" problem, and then like you giving knee jerk solutions and populist short term and short term solutions, which are not a long term solution.
It would be more sensible to analyse the cause or origins of the “problem” and then seek sensible solutions and accepting the cost of resolving the “INTERNATI ONAL” associated problems.

That does not mean ignoring the problems of the symptoms of the current problems and addressing them.

But it does mean accepting some of the costs of doing so.

Also, it needs an international support from many countries which Cameron for his strutting and blustering, is alienating more and more.

(The strutting is own ego and political needs)

I think the UK needs Calais more than the Europe needs Dover!

At the moment, some in the UK are happy to trade like pirates without accepting the results or responsibilities of doing so.

(Supply of arms, by UK and America.)
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Fred you really do talk some rubbish

(England is an island unto itself and is becoming more isolated internationally.)

Why are we isolated ? i don't think so ,,

what should we do about the immigration problem , one idea is send large coaches to calais and ship them in every day in shifts ,then when the rest of Africa and Syria Etc Etc gets wind of it we should be able to get 5000 per day arriving .

Do you think it's right that they are tearing down fences at the tunnel every night and ruining British businesses ? They are doing untold damage to this country .
Max post above about them being taxied up to London and the North to stay in hotels beggers belief .

A tough solution now needs to be found .

YAWN Fredie!! You will probably be dead by the time if ever your beloved Labour Party get back into power. Why don't you just chill and deal with it! LOL!!!!

JB.

Re-read what I typed.

I suppose you could emigrate to Somali and sunbathe in the sun!

Mind we could put machine guns on the border and shoot the buggers.

(Reminds me, of going to Yugoslavia by train and crossing the border into Austria and stopping at the border control and looking out through the windows and seeing machine guns pointing down the platform. (Going in and out.))

Manuel.

You will have to wait for legislation before as a landlord you become a vigilante.