Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11844594/Jeremy-Corbyn-Let-taxpayers-opt-out-of-funding-the-Army.html

Jeremy Corbyn: Let taxpayers opt out of funding the Army

Labour leadership front-runner once proposed letting Britons stop their taxes going to Army - in idea branded 'stark-staring bonkers' by ex-generals

British taxpayers should be allowed to opt out of funding the Army, Jeremy Corbyn once proposed in an idea former generals have called "stark-starring bonkers".

The Labour leadership front-runner suggested voters should be able to act with their "conscience" and order the Treasury not spend their tax money on soldiers.

Britain's leading former generals warned the "corrosive" idea could undermine public support for soldiers and was "absolutely ludicrous".

It has emerged after Mr Corbyn triggered a backlash by saying he “couldn’t think” of a situation in which he would deploy troops.

Asked in what circumstances he would back deploying British troops, Mr Corbyn said: “I'm sure there are some. But I can't think of them at the moment."

The comments, which came during a Channel 4 debate between the Labour leadership rivals, have put Mr Corbyn’s views on defence back in the spotlight.

During a House of Commons debate in 1999, the Islington North MP proposed letting people opt out of giving tax revenue to the Army

“What policy is adopted by his Department in respect of taxpayers who do not wish to pay certain elements of taxation on grounds of conscience,” he asked Treasury ministers on June 24.

Mr Corby continued: “British taxpayers have a right of conscience not to participate in the armed forces in time of conscription and should have a similar right in time of peace to ensure that part of their tax goes to peace, not war.”

The suggestion came with Kosovo beginning to rebuild after the destruction of war and as the Italian Parliament was considering similar legislation.

However the suggestion was criticised by Alan Milburn, then-chief secretary to the Treasury, who said “undermine” funding in the Armed Forces.

Former leading generals have told The Telegraph the idea is “corrosive” and warned of the impact his victory in the Labour leadership race would have on defence policy.

Admiral Lord West, the former First Sea Lord, called the idea “stark-staring bonkers”. “The great joy of the military is that they stop war from happening by showing you are willing to fight,” he said.

“To think that you can be selective as a member of the public and say ‘I will pay for this, I won’t pay for that because I don’t want them to fight anybody’ is just absolutely ludicrous.”

Cynic - I also earn my keep as you do I think, and not always in obvious ways.
I would expect that of anybody

a strange argument to prefer a republic to a monarchy :-)

People say I am a bit strange - I wonder why ? ha ha ha

Does anybody know the background of this guy .... Corbyn ?
Has he ever had a proper job, or run a business ?
What level of education does he have ?

It looks like the labour party is about to self destruct then we will we be left with
the Conservatives and UKIP, plus some Scottish people who want to put their
leaders on the english throne again !

What the hell - why am I bothered -
I suppose Spanish politics is no different, but I don't want to know about it.

This M am site is almost as good as Ashley Madison or Adult Friend Finder etc

JB and rekirkham (06 Sep 2015 10:02 - 62311 of 62325)

You are sensitive flowers!

Cartoons are generally meant to offend and I suggest you look the meaning or suggestions contained in them.

Many take offence and the prefer not examine the truth or morality in the perceived actions.

But each unto their own.
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As far as the MAM site quality is concerned, it is having a problem or two since "rewriting! its programmes etc.. "And loss of GF."

But it is quiet to a difficult market and "holiday" period.

But you could always start your own site, you might get a few followers. Personally I think it provides an amazing quality of information.
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JB.

C+P my likening of you to Hitler.

Was it because you wanted to dictate to others what you think they should do????

As pointed out you can always use the squelch buttons.

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But once more:

“The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.”


― Mahatma Gandhi

Corbyn, grew up in a well to do family in the country, went to a private prep school, did not go to university, attended a polytechnic for a while with no qualification. He became a Councillor for Haringey and was there for a few years. He has no government experience apart from voting against his own party more than 500 times.

He has a nutty brother, Piers, who is a climate change denier that lives in a tiny council flat in Elephant and Castle. Here is his web site.

http://www.weatheraction.com/

Corbyn and his brother

Here iis a quote on his website

"The onset of the Mini-Ice-Age contiuing to 2035 is ineviatble - and no amount of data-fraud by the UN and camp-followers in academia, baseless propaganda by BBC and AlJazeera, inane green religious piety by politicians or anti-science diktats - echoing the terror the Catholic Church and Inquisition meted-out to Galileo and other 'heretics' by the Pope; can stop it." he said

"The Pope's Encyclical pronouncements on #ClimateChange are the work of The Devil and - like the Papal Inquisition against #Galileo in 1633 - place baseless and deluded belief and Lies (eg from UN Climate Committee the IPCC) above observed scientific fact. We challenge the Pope (or his agents) to public debate on the science." said Piers

Haystack -
That is to say - no private work experience, no private business experience,
no real Government experience, plus not much dress sense, unartistic,
and has a nutty brother.

Sounds to me like he will be OK to lead the Labour party -
lets give him the job, and we will see the end of Labour party forever !

I wonder?

It seems that more tories are worried by Jeremy than the rest of the population!

fred - you're cartoons aren't offensive, or at least not to me, because i hardly ever look at them, but they really are frightfully dull in their repetition of the same boring mantra day after day after day after day

TO SOME, THE MESSAGE HAS TO BE REPEATED.

"oh when will they ever learn?"

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"Some will never learn!"

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The slow learners are too frightened to change!

a good advertising maxim to bear in mind - less is more

more, especially more and more and more and more, quickly becomes tedious and thus completely loses whatever point was trying to be made

PS.

A little like hay's drivel and the bursts of your insights gained from the Mail and Telegraph comics.

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strangely, i never read the mail and rarely the telegraph ..... most days i read the version of the guardian that is delivered daily on my e-mail and linked to the internet

you really are so unbelievably pompous and supercilious at times, if not at all times

Manuel.

You are improving yourself as you get older.

Aren't the words in the Guardian a bit long for you?

Mind there is still a long way for you to go.

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Ps.

I wonder if you have enough time left?

Can we all be friends on these pages - do we have to piss one another off all the time -

fred has been pissing off everyone for ages .... it's clearly the only fun he has left in his life

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/09/06/no-increase-syrian-refugee-numbers/

No increase in Syrian refugee numbers – public

Most British people say there should be no increase in admissions of Syrian refugees – and concerns over immigration have reached an all-time high

David Cameron gave in to pressure to increase the number of Syrian refugees Britain takes on Friday – he now is reportedly prepared to accept 15,000 – after a week in which hundreds of thousands of refugees entered Germany and other European countries – and the continent was stirred by a picture of a drowned Syrian child washed up on a beach. Some British newspapers that are traditionally averse to accepting asylum seekers were moved by the picture, urging readers to help.

New YouGov research for the Sun reveals that most British people do not want more Syrian refugees in Britain. Slightly more than a third (36%) say Britain should admit higher numbers than it has recently, but 51% say it should not.

These divide between the 24% of people who want the numbers to remain as now – Britain has accepted nearly 5,000 over the last four years – and those who want there to be a reduction in numbers (13%) or a complete hold. (14%).

Syrians account for the largest proportion of refugees in the current crisis, but there are also hundreds of thousands from Afghanistan, Kosovo, Eritrea, Serbia and other countries. 28% say Britain should accept more of these refugees, while 60% say we should not.

Regarding people in search of a better life, but not fleeing conflict or persecution, only 5% say we should accept higher numbers than recently. Of these, 37% say we should not accept any at all and 30% say we should accept fewer than recently.

Of the people who can put a number on how many Syrian refugees Britain should take, 50% say it should be zero.

Only 21% of the public say David Cameron has handled the crisis well, compared to 45% who say he has handled it badly.

Most British people (52%) would support Britain playing a greater military role in bringing an end to war in Syria. 22% would oppose this.

There has been a large increase in the proportion of people who say immigration is the most important issue facing the country. The economy is usually the number one issue, however 71% now say immigration is – the highest level since YouGov began asking the question in 2010 – compared to 35% for the economy.