Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Now Croatia has the problem ,

Croatia has closed seven of its eight road border crossings with Serbia following a huge influx of migrants.
Officials said they had no choice after more than 11,000 people entered the country since Hungary fenced off its border with Serbia earlier this week.
Many have been taken by bus to reception centres but some say they plan to walk to neighbouring Slovenia.
Huge numbers of people heading north from the Mediterranean have created a political crisis in the European Union.
Croatian officials said roads leading to the border crossings had also been shut.
The crossing on the main road linking Belgrade and Zagreb - at Bajakovo - appeared to be the only one left open.

Analysis: Guy Delauney, BBC News, Zagreb
Freedom of movement is disappearing in south-east Europe. Slovenia has suspended rail connections with Croatia after around 150 refugees arrived by train. And Croatia has now joined Hungary in closing most of its road borders with Serbia.
The authorities in Zagreb say they had no choice. More than 11,000 refugees have entered the country since Wednesday - the day after Hungary criminalised unofficial border crossings.
Croatia has attempted to take the newcomers to asylum centres - but the overwhelming numbers mean that many people have been left on the streets.
Some have told the BBC they plan to walk north to neighbouring Slovenia which is in the EU's border-free Schengen Area.
Grey line
On Thursday, Croatian Interior Minister Ranko Ostojic said his country was "absolutely full".
He said his message to the migrants was: "Don't come here any more. Stay in refugee centres in Serbia and Macedonia and Greece. This is not the road to Europe. Buses can't take you there. It's a lie."
But a Reuters journalist at the scene reported that migrants were walking through fields to bypass one of the border crossings.

The new Lin Dem leader Tim Farron (another idiot ) yesterday saying we should open the door at Calais and let them in from the camps there , are these people completely mad ?

NO.

Some realise they have a responsibility to the human race, not just themselves!

You are insane Fred1new....this is not about pity....

how many refugees are you going to accommodate in your pad then fred?

It's now a free for all and thousands and thousands are economic migrants .

If they are genuine why are they heading for Germany ,why not settle in the first safe haven .
Fred i know you won't answer that because it's tricky and won't suit your agenda .

fred we now know you are a man with no assets and children on benefits and lazy scum at that your family must be low life . and have nothing to lose .
and freedom to your tribe is seating on your backsides and the garden a tip
so are you just scum of a family .
because what you post says all that .
a father of scum

Tanker....steady...no need to insult....

rf is comments are and will destroy the youth f our country making them the persecuted if he had is way .
in 20 years our children will be the depressed with scum like him making comments

I live in a big home and only two of us I will gladly sell my home with all the mode cons ever thing and sell it to the council for 30k less for them to house a brittish family of 8

3 bathrooms . and have told my mp who is a honest person .
two people like my self should not be living in a home for a big family

fred certainly has (adult) children, all of whom i believe are gainfully employed

Well.....anyway...the crisis in central europe is not getting any better because more will be arriving....crazy.....

And now causing trouble ...I knew this would happen and it's just the start.

"War on all fronts," thunders the headline in the conservative daily newspaper, Magyar Nemzet - a reference to both the battles between desperate refugees and Hungarian riot police, and to Hungary's deepening diplomatic isolation.
Csaba Lukacs, the paper's leader writer, depicts a Hungary under attack from young, stone-throwing Muslim men: "Hungary's border was besieged by those who think they have the basic human right to march across Europe without documents.
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(those who think they have the basic human right to march across Europe without documents)
These are not genuine migrants just opportunists .

This is just not going the way you would want , is it . It could get really out of hand ISIL must think it's Xmas ( you know what i mean )

JB,

If they are genuine why are they heading for Germany, why not settle in the first safe haven
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Did you settle for the first job you were offered, or did you look around for one which suited you and your family?

Like many, in one way, I was an economic migrant and "got on my bike" and "changed" job and area I worked in, many different times until I found what suited me and I settled. (Opportunistic.)

A lot of the migrants are young and probably hoping for better conditions and more for themselves and their families.

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One of my daughters works for the "Home Office" and has just come back from meetings and discussions in different places in Europe on the "migrant" problem. As she says, the problems complex, confusing and difficult to resolve. Also, directives from above seem often to try and save the arses of the present Ministers than the problems.


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Escaping from the EU adds to the difficulties of resolving such problems we now have.

Ducking and snapping from the outside will only produce further problems and rebound on the UK.

jimmy - the hungarian gov't is very nastily right wing ..... i won't bother with the detail, but the link below will tell you enough ....... the memorial in question was erected just a couple of years ago

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/central-europe/controversial-monument-divides-hungarians-angers-jewish-community-303656

fred - there's a major difference between accepting the first job you are offered, genuine war refugees fleeing for their lives and economic refugees who fancy working the system

by the way, having beaten the drum so loudly, you have still not told us how many refugees you are prepared to accommodate in your own pad

So having a go at MI5 with some satirical cheep crap for trying to protect your Daughter and us , and letting an excessive load of crap in the country is your answer then very complex indeed .

Manuel.

Previous to retiring my house often felt like a hotel for months on end.

After, retiring, we downsized and the present house doesn't seem to have enough room to swing a cat, leave alone provide hospitality for other than family.

A pity, but reality!

Fred the more you say the more I'm now convinced you're a crackpot .