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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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snurkle1 - 13 Aug 2013 07:31 - 652 of 1034

Gaz, great links and posts.
Love the garden analogy.
I suppose the history one tells us we're pretty much screwed.

ps Not in today, but will call you tomorrow with an update when the boys have finished looking at it.... believe it or not, it did turn out busy over the last few days.

Saturn6 - 13 Aug 2013 10:02 - 653 of 1034

Gaz - Forthcoming disasterous events are going to increase, apart from the jump in man-made catastrophies such as train, plain, boat, bus disasters wars, riots, and criminal behaviour they will also include...Earthquakes that will exponentially increase along with tidal and volcanic activity around the globe which will cause major destruction and death. Weather related events such as storms, flooding, drought, fires, freezing, and baking, etc. 'The insurance industry claim payouts are the canary in the coal mine.' Don Forgeron, Insurance Bureau of Canada.

Disease and plagues, H7N9 Avian Influenza now has made the jump to humans...http://news.yahoo.com/strain-bird-flu-jumps-animals-humans-165957727.html Also SARS, Cancers, TB, Diabetes, Polio, Pnuemonia, Psoriasis, STD's, MRSA, HIV, Brain disorders...Alzheimers, Parkinsons, Schizophrenia, CJD, Bi-Polar, Autism, ADHD, etc.

Remember too the stockpiles of chemical, bioligical and toxin weapons. Anthrax, West Nile Virus, Botulism, Brucellosis, Cholera, Typhus, Smallpox, Yellow Fever, Ricin, etc.

Bee colony collapse disorder (CCD) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder Locust plagues in Africa and Middle East...http://planetindistress.com/2013/05/10/famine-potential-from-locust-plagues-in-africa-middle-east/ 'Consuming 100,000 Tonnes of crops PER DAY'

All prophesied in the Bible and instructions therin on how to deal with it.

You believe that there is one God. That's fine! Even the demons believe that and tremble with fear. James 2:19


S.






Saturn6 - 13 Aug 2013 10:12 - 654 of 1034

'But now bullion banks also have a problem: They tried to replenish their (physical gold) coffers during the massive manipulative selling that we’ve seen over the last few months in the paper market. Although they took the price down, most of the physical (gold) that was released by selling from ETFs and hedge funds was absorbed by Asia.'

'And the central planners (also) went to India and said, ‘Look, you’ve got to do something about all of this gold buying in India.’ So we’ve had ten different steps by the Indian government to try to curb demand — a 2% tax, a 4% tax, a 6% tax, an 8% tax, and a ruling that banks couldn’t lend money for people to buy gold.'...

'By undercutting normal gold lease rates, these super low interest rates have forced central banks to reduce their lease rates to nonsensical levels in order to prevent gold futures from going into overt backwardation. Recall that GOFO, the gold forward rate, is the interest rate for a given maturity less the lease rate for that maturity, and that a negative GOFO represents backwardation.'

'The bottom line is that there is a very serious shortage of physical gold, and as this becomes increasingly apparent to the rest of the world, this is likely to cause a tremendous amount of instability in the financial markets in the months ahead.'

http://endtimebibleprophecy.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/the-coming-shortage-of-physical-gold-that-will-change-everything/#more-10165

'So what does all of this mean for you?

What it means is that while we may see wild fluctuations in the prices of gold and silver over the short-term, the long-term prognosis for both metals is absolutely fantastic.'

S.

Saturn6 - 13 Aug 2013 10:29 - 655 of 1034

Steve Silva did such a good job deceiving the nation on 9-11 that the Illuminati brought him back for the Boston Marathon bombing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBLk7p1gMXY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P_qU2J8DvU&lc=7Gsfy2_Gw5jbCYwuNOUg7L62ySIuS3J-cLVWq0Ci_eQ

"We have already contrived to possess the minds of the goy communities...[they are] looking through the spectacles we are setting astride their noses." -- Protocols of Zion, 12

See more here....http://henrymakow.com/

S.

gazkaz - 13 Aug 2013 11:10 - 656 of 1034

Snurkle - cheers re update.

When so many things don't add up anymore, in such a highly and obviously co-ordinated top level manner, from the global "unified in step" central bank printing,
- to the actions of the senate, executive orders, and
- those Flea-ma & dept homeboy security....buying up all the a.mmo (including HollowPoints - banned under the GenevaConv)
- plus reports (copy emails) of them approaching emergency/survival food suppliers asking for....inventories and how much and how quickly they can ship
- it does make you wonder.

Spain is totally flat broke, insolvent,
- 36% under 25's unemployment & of all the eurozone's... total unemployed....Spain accounts for 30%
- having to resort to borrowing from its state pension and welfare fund
- which is invested 95% plus in ?....Spanish gov't bonds
- The US is totally fooked with the FEDy having to buy the majority of T-bond issues (one way or another), the charade of ever increasing debt ceilings, the 7th largest economy in the world verging on bankruptcy (California) - and major cities like Detroit defaulting completely, including payments to city pensioners.
- Greece needing another EU bailout....which will no doubt become a saver/depositor bail-in.

Yet all ticks quietly on (lull before - the storm....style)

As to "the storm" ....that's the question.

The seed vaults, the bunkers (especially the boyz biggies - constructed under the pretence of the cold war) - do seem to point to an expected...damn big storm.

Looking at history - even the biblical - the exodus, Noah's flood etc - there have been "damn big storms" in the past. People who have tried to establish dates....seem to conclude the likelihood of them being....cyclical.

Suppressed archaelogy would leave you in no doubt that there have been many more -advanced civilisations on the planet in the past than history teaches....and for a darn sight longer too.
(even in manstream there is no conclusion as what happened to the relatively recent in historical terms Aztecs, Inca's & Mayan's).

There are many examples of ancient underground constructions to hose large numbers of people that would have taken many, many years and immense untold man hours to contruct.

The crusades recovered much esoteric knowledge (no doubt housed in the VaricanVaults) - and the truly massive repository of ancient knowledge was burned at Alexandria for a reason. Even in WWII Hitler sent out missions to locate....ancient "knowledge" (very much along the lines of the film "raiders of the lost ark").

Looking at supposed - legends
- fire and brimstone raining down, gods hurling fireballs, gods firing lightening bolts, gods battling in the heavens
- I imagine they used terminology of the day - not able to use - comets/asteroids, coronal mass discharges, pole reversals etc.

All in all suggestive of....recurring (& regular ?) ...cycles

Even trying to be self cynical as to the plausability - of such a possible conclusion
(& ignoring,, exact,, cycles of the progression of the constellations, ..and regular as clockwork comets... such as Haleys Comet)

- Two common sense questions spring to mind

- Why did the ancients spend inordinate amounts of time and effort over multi generations accurately tabulating passage of time, and building stunningly huge constructions - to track progression of the constellations.

- Why have those with access to ancient knowledge in the vaults beneath Rome
- recently funded satellites & suddenly.... in a big way - got into the ground based telescope/observatory business.

We can of course only guess to the answers to those two questions - which are seemingly...connected....yet seperated by millenia

- but one guess in the "lull before the storm" as to the nature of "the storm" has a tendency to make all the things that - don't add up
- add up perfectly

IF,...that's the case, then.....as to a when ??
- the above dots & others do tend to point to...sooner, rather than...later.

gazkaz - 13 Aug 2013 11:25 - 657 of 1034

Sahara - we do all seem on the same page, as to the joys which seem on the near horizon ahead of us.

A rare breed that can look at the likely events ahead in our near future, yet sleep soundly and carry on with the normalities of day to day life, and, not feel depressed or run around like a headless chicken.

Just renewed, my car breakdown cover, paying for...3yrs, as it's cheaper :o)
- now is that "Being mindful of what the future may bring, but not... living in expectation of it"
in action....or what !
lol

The sarcasm in the Boston vids is perfect balancel
- did you read the extract of page 55 in mullins book I posted
(vs protocols :o)

Saturn6 - 13 Aug 2013 11:52 - 658 of 1034

Gaz - I like your style, and your faith. I plant my garden each year too... And God Bless your Dad.

Talking of faith, it struck me as odd that evolutionists don't go for faith yet when you drill down that is what is required to believe in evolution...Blind faith...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ#at=923

S.






Saturn6 - 13 Aug 2013 12:24 - 659 of 1034

On $Silver - The Pinched Bollinger Bands have produced a nice thrust so far...

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Remember the 'Triangle' and the 'Gap' fill objectives, well we met those during yesterday's move up...

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We need to see now if these will be hurdles that are difficult to jump. See also that the old support is now being back-tested and you all know by now what old support becomes when broken...

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Remember this support line I put in prior...

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Meanwhile if the low is indeed in then this chart shows the enormous potential Wave-iii of 3 possesses...

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S.

gazkaz - 13 Aug 2013 16:28 - 660 of 1034

Sahara
- I recently likened the evolution theory from the primordial soup
- as to..

- you throw all the parts of an alternator in a tumble drier....and let it tumble for.. a million years or so....and one day all the pieces just happen to come together...into a complete functional alternator
- then you do the same with the parts for...a starter motor
- when you have done the same for... all of the components for a car
- you then throw the whole lot of individual components - into a really big tumble drier (for... a few billion years... this time, ...so we can give it credible time for a good chance :o)
- and one day - out drives a complete...Audi A4.

(& thats giving the eveolution guys a head start - by putting "ready made parts" of an alternator etc into the tumbler.
Imagine ..as is closer to evolution theory... just starting trying for the completed alternator....starting only with tumbling bits of raw metals)

gazkaz - 13 Aug 2013 16:35 - 661 of 1034

I had the chance to reconnect with a source
- in the bullion management business,
- whose operations deal on a direct basis with... the shipping desks at the GLD.
(While remaining unnamed at this time, it was a powerful conversation, and he was quite liberal in sharing thought).

http://bullmarketthinking.com/gld-is-collapsing-its-shares-and-that-gold-is-being-shipped-directly-to-asia/

Speaking to what his group
- is hearing from ......the main GLD custodian,
- he noted that,
- “GLD is collapsing in [terms of] the number of share issuance,
- and [is] being redeemed…
- we are hearing from my end…

- that the GLD main custodian...... has been collapsing it and redeeming it,
- and that gold.... is just being shipped..... via their shipping desk.... directly to Asia.”

Saturn6 - 13 Aug 2013 18:04 - 662 of 1034

Brilliant Gaz - You tickled me with that ever so eloquent yet devastatingly appropriate analogy of evolution.

Absolutely Spot On!!!

I used a similar scenario with a heating engineer whilst discussing his faith in evolution. Although he argued with me it was not a faith, I asked him where the proof was and he came out with multiple reasons why evolution happened but no proof. So I therefore made him realise that oit was a faith that he had without himself knowing. Such is the power of our education and programming. ;-/

Anyway the scenario I used was how he would react to stumbling across a fully complete and functioning domestic heating boiler in a field after being told it came into being by happenstance.... The look on his face was a picture.

Gaz - I noticed India has launched a home built aircraft carrier. The first to follow Britain, France, Russia and the United States to do so. Beating even China to do so.

Vikrant’s launch comes just two days after India announced that its first indigenously built nuclear submarine was ready for war trials.'

http://www.voanews.com/content/india-launches-indigenously-buit-aircraft-carrier/1727930.html

lnuw.jpgThe Indian aircraft carrier is docked at a shipyard after its launch in Kochi, India, Aug. 12, 2013.

S.

gazkaz - 13 Aug 2013 20:43 - 663 of 1034

Sahara - indeed people do have unquestioning faith in what they are taught in school and college.
(The Tavispook Institute works wonders).

The Indian carrier looks a bit short in the take off dept. Maybe you line the carriers up, like running across li-lo's in a swimming pool to get airborne.
- And call me old fashioned but it is traditional to have somewhere for the captain to sit. I think sitting in the lowered stern end with his hand on the rudder is going to give a very restricted view of where the pointy end is going.

Maybe it did originally have a traditional elevated bridge in the middle for the captain, but they removed it, so the planes didn't have to slow down to go round it when taking off.

It really does look like someone sold them the plans... for the bow and stern,
- and the Indians didn't notice they were missing the 1/4 of a mile middle section.

gazkaz - 13 Aug 2013 20:52 - 664 of 1034

Shanghai silver stocks April 13





Then the p/metals take down, .....since when
- they have been bleeding silver stock


Shanghai silver stocks Aug 13






So in just a few post crash months......silver stocks have plummeted
- from 1,123 tonnes
- to 509 tonnes
- that's a whopping loss of 55% of inventory
- in just 16 weeks

gazkaz - 14 Aug 2013 10:19 - 665 of 1034

Short and sweet - furthers sign/confirmation of near horizon....potential
- around 8 mins in and only 3 mins worth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a_FNXew7FHU

Insight from official documents - re the internment/resettlement Kamps
- been recruiting staff for them since 2010
- job description for one post....interesting
- as is the layout & design
(coneys a lot in just 3 mins)

gazkaz - 14 Aug 2013 14:50 - 666 of 1034

When caution is thrown to the wind and the sheeple get heady & giddy
- they not only jump in with both feet into the TPTB share casino
- they borrow on margin too

What happened last time when borrowed margin money was this high
(The downward red spikes - denote amount of borrowed margin money)
- 2000 Tech Bubble Pop - 2007 everything fell off the cliff
- AFTER - the crashes the margin accounts (post the rush for the exits)...spike up into credit green





Based on the past "experience" - what was the timescale from peak margin borrowing to ---stocks taking a nose dive ?




Maybe - this time "things will be..different" - as they say
(tho' somehow I doubt it - "those who learn from the mistakes of history.....are consigned to ....watch others repeat them"....again perhaps)

gazkaz - 14 Aug 2013 15:03 - 667 of 1034

Perhaps looking at the previous post - another way





In addition


For the 5th time .....in the last 7 days,
- equity market internals have triggered an anxiety-implying Hindenburg Omen.
- Based on our data, this is ......the most concentrated cluster
- of new highs, new lows, advancing/declining based confusion on record.
The last few occurrences have not ended well (though obviously not disastrously) but as the creator of the 'Omen' notes,
- the more occurrences that cluster,..... the stronger the signal


But - maybe this time (in spite of a hat trick of indicators).....things will be - different.
.

gazkaz - 14 Aug 2013 15:11 - 668 of 1034

How many banksters end up in jail (or even make it as far as - the dock)





So - How high & how well organised ?
(A deep, deep rabbit hole :o)

gazkaz - 14 Aug 2013 15:32 - 669 of 1034

Wonder - what is driving the market higher


But
- let put it in a...concise nutshell in a simple grapic



And so in another nutshell....this time in words

So, thanks to the US Treasury, we know that between January 2009 and April 2013,
- on days in which the Fed POMO was more than $5 billion,
- the stock market............ rose a total of 570 points (up 54%)
- on days in which the POMO was less than $5 billion
- the cumulative stock market ............gain was "only" 141 points (up 15%)

and when there was no POMO ??

- the S&P gained... minus 51 points (Minus 2%)









gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 09:11 - 670 of 1034

A view of gold demand in Dubai

"We have 90 days order logbook.
So..... we cannot fill the demand we have at this stage"


gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 09:21 - 671 of 1034

Further to my earler post that JPM had bought up virtually all comex July deliveries, for delivery...to it's own house account.
(& was beginning grabbing the August deliveries.....in the same manner)

Has JPM, flooded with demands for physical,
- finally thrown in the towel, and seeing that the deluge in delivery requests is "unrelenting",
- had no choice but to turn to...... the one place it has left to replenish its stocks:
- the market?

The firm's House accounts just saw
- the largest Stop (i.e. taking delivery) since December of 2012,
- amounting to over 210K oz.

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