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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new - 14 Dec 2012 22:39 - 6570 of 6906

Hays,

Does USA allow inspection of all its "research" facilities?

Hypocrisy is everywhere, so I am told.

Even hypocritical myself.

Thank the lord I am able to laugh at myself sometimes.

(You haven't got to thank him, if you can do the same.)

fahel - 15 Dec 2012 19:50 - 6571 of 6906

Albeit i totally sympathy and cry those innocents who were massacred in such brutality and inhumanity , i must ask all (especially in the Middle East ) who condemned this crime , doesn't this happen everyday to kids in Palestine and for the past 60 years , isn't happening to kids in Syria , Iraq ... or we're just too damn used to it, that we don't see it as horrible as these one offs Again Media prevails

cynic - 15 Dec 2012 20:53 - 6572 of 6906

fahel - why must you always thump the drum for your little pets?

Fred1new - 15 Dec 2012 21:51 - 6573 of 6906

Cynic,

He is pointing to the manipulation of the media and its outlet.

But, what is considered important, or relevant enough for the "head lines" is often based on whether it will grab the public attention and the financial advantages overt, or covert, of their presentation.

Dil - 16 Dec 2012 02:42 - 6574 of 6906

Fred1new - 14 Dec 2012 15:38 - 6566 of 6573

Dil.

Even you are funny sometimes!

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Perhaps, the majority of countries are realising the condemnation of a country from wishing to have, or having the same goodies as they themselves are holding, is hypocritical and will have little influence.

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Fred I'm funny all the time but you still haven't answered my question.

Are you suggesting we sell to the highest bidder yes or no ?

Dil - 16 Dec 2012 02:50 - 6575 of 6906

Haystack - 14 Dec 2012 21:53 - 6569 of 6574

It is not just about nuclear non-proliferation. It is about the lack of transparency and inspection. Israel has never allowed the IAEA to inspect their facilities and it is extreme hypocrisy for them to complain abut Iran's nuclear developments.



Stop talking bollox Haystack. As far as I'm aware to this day Israel have never admitted having nuclear weapons although the whole world know they do. Unlike Iran they have never threatened to nuke another country even though they have the capability.

Personally I believe that Iran's nuke capability is non exisistent and if they ever get anywhere near being a threat Israel will sort it (on behalf of the rest of the world but without their official backing).

I'm happy with that.

cynic - 16 Dec 2012 07:52 - 6576 of 6906

silly q no doubt, but has iaea ever asked let alone demanded to inspect israel's nuclear instalations?

Fred1new - 16 Dec 2012 10:50 - 6577 of 6906

Dil,

My previous response would suggest I would prefer Non-proliferation of Nuclear Armaments and would not therefore propose sales to any bidders.

But the hope is an irrelevance in the present international world.


I would not sell "drugs" to "kids" either.

Fred1new - 16 Dec 2012 11:28 - 6578 of 6906

"Personally I believe that Iran's nuke capability is non exisistent and if they ever get anywhere near being a threat Israel will sort it (on behalf of the rest of the world but without their official backing)."


Sheer madness. Impractical. They would be signing their own death sentence.

Even if they Israel has the capability, the ME would go up like a tinder box and the furnace would destroy Israel as a realistic entity.

Consider the response sooner, or later, of countries surrounding Iran of Nuclear fallout and then the response of the World to the very existence of Israel.

Unless, the Israeli administration comes to its senses over negotiations rather than being immature bully boys then they will remain political pariahs.

That doe not mean that other countries and groups in the ME do not have to reform, or "grow up", and negotiate sensibly, with all parties holding to agreements when signed.

fahel - 17 Dec 2012 19:06 - 6579 of 6906

Israel's War on Truth | Brainwash Update

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMFAfQJKlAM&feature=player_embedded

ahoj - 19 Dec 2012 11:41 - 6580 of 6906

UN security council's EU members to condemn Israeli settlements expansion
Unusual statement expected from the UK, France, Germany and Portugal follows blunt criticism by US of construction plans

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/19/security-council-condemn-israeli-settlements?

fahel - 19 Dec 2012 19:28 - 6581 of 6906

Bethlehem Bible College Choir O Little Town of Bethlehem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3eWAXBlm1Do#!

Gausie - 31 Dec 2012 11:08 - 6582 of 6906

Happy birthday to you know who - you grumpy old sod!

;-)

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 14:45 - 6583 of 6906

The town of Bethlehem in Roman times was in an area called Palestine(Palestina in Latin). Palestine was the name for a large area including Judea. The people of that area were referred to as Palestinians irrespective of their religion or ethnicity. There were Jews, Muslims etc.

This means that when Jesus was born, he was a Palestinian. Recently Fatah said that Yasser Arafat was the second greatest Palestinian after Jesus.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 15:04 - 6584 of 6906

that's funny .... hamas history is different from others ..... Bethlehem at the time was an Israelite city in Judaea ..... just shows how confusing facts are

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 15:24 - 6585 of 6906

And Judea was in Palestine.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 15:36 - 6586 of 6906

i think you are wrong, though the regions may have been known as Judaea-Palaestina or Judaea and Syria Palaestina ..... anyway, it is indisputable that it was (they were) an eastern province of the Roman Empire, so what twitty point are you trying to make? ..... do we get 3 guesses? ..... Perhaps it should be handed back to the Italians as successors to the Roman Empire?

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 15:51 - 6587 of 6906

Library of Congress

Judea is the southern region of ancient Palestine; the Qumran region was a barren area within the Judean desert which yielded the Dead Sea scrolls treasure.

cynic - 01 Jan 2013 16:03 - 6588 of 6906

and in what era are you choosing your facts and the point you are trying to make?

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and it's a funny old life, but suggest you go to salaam.co.uk and read and also look at your geography on their kindly-provided map of the region ...... i wouldn't DREAM of saying you were talking bollocks, but others might!

Haystack - 01 Jan 2013 16:53 - 6589 of 6906

I am not making any particular point.
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