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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Haystack - 13 Apr 2016 15:21 - 658 of 12628

Obviously the electoral commission didn't take that view.

grannyboy - 13 Apr 2016 15:26 - 659 of 12628

I'm disappointed that GO didn't win, but we've got to join together and get the LEAVE message out LOUD and CLEAR...

IT'S THE ONLY VOTE WE WILL EVER GET....

MaxK - 13 Apr 2016 15:34 - 660 of 12628

How many jobs in France are dependant on trading with the UK?

How many jobs in Germany are dependant on trading with the UK?

VICTIM - 13 Apr 2016 15:34 - 661 of 12628

Exactly gran , the only thing concerns me is how low these stayers will go , Obama is here soon so I'm expecting plenty of bullshit from every orifice .

MaxK - 13 Apr 2016 15:35 - 662 of 12628

Are they going to toss them all on the scrapheap cos blighty pulls out?

grannyboy - 13 Apr 2016 15:54 - 663 of 12628

I was wrong about the 7 million pounds from the government,
the 7 mil has to be raised by the sides, they do get several hundred
thousands to cover mail shots etc.

Other registered campaigns are only allowed to spend up to 700K each
during the period.

Vote Leave have said the official remain campaign, the Government and political parties on the remain side can spend a staggering 26.6 million pounds.

On the Leave side, the maximum amount they can spend is 11.7 million pounds...Two and a half times less.

Haystack - 13 Apr 2016 15:57 - 664 of 12628

The Electoral Commission

"We received two high quality applications on the ‘Leave’ side, from ‘Vote Leave Ltd’ and ‘The Go Movement Ltd’. After careful consideration, the Commission decided that ‘Vote Leave Ltd’ better demonstrated that it has the structures in place to ensure the views of other campaigners are represented in the delivery of its campaign. It therefore represents, to a greater extent than ‘Go Movement Ltd’, those campaigning for the ‘Leave’ outcome, which is the test we must apply.”

jimmy b - 13 Apr 2016 16:04 - 665 of 12628

Haystack Send an email to Haystack View Haystack's profile - 13 Apr 2016 15:03 - 648 of 664

There are other considerations of a political nature. Both sides want bragging rights if we leave. Farage won't be happy taking a backseat role and it will be damaging to UKIP.
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Hays without Nigel Farage we would never have had the vote so if we leave we have him to thank.
Cameron only agreed to this because of the rise of UKIP and the mood of the country at the time .

cynic - 13 Apr 2016 16:17 - 666 of 12628

that is certainly true, though whether it will do us any good remains to be seen
can only cast one vote per person ..... except fred who is exceedingly unlikely to vote at all

Haystack - 13 Apr 2016 16:20 - 667 of 12628

What will happen to UKIP when we most likely vote to stay in.

jimmy b - 13 Apr 2016 16:20 - 668 of 12628

We wont.

cynic - 13 Apr 2016 16:23 - 669 of 12628

don't care

Haystack - 13 Apr 2016 16:26 - 670 of 12628

Campaign going pear shaped already!

3:58pm
Failed leave campaign decries 'political stitch-up' and threatens legal challenge within days
A leading figure in the group that failed to become the lead Out campaign has called the decision a “political stitch-up” and pledged to challenge it legally within days.

Speaking after the announcement, Arron Banks, the founder of Leave.EU which is one of the groups comprising GO Movement, confirmed he would now be seeking a judicial review to the decision.

The comments come after Mr Banks had told The Telegraph before the announcement that he would consider a legal challenge.

Asked if he would seek now judicial review, Mr Banks told The Telegraph: “Definitely. We are going to see lawyers now. We think they haven’t applied the criteria they should have.”

When asked if the move was just “sour grapes” for failing to get the nomination, he responded: “It is not right. We have over a million supporters, [Vote Leave] have nobody but a few Tory politicians. ... This is a political stitch-up.”

On the impact of the decision on the EU referendum campaign, Mr Banks said: “It becomes an internal squabble in the Conservative Party, doesn’t it? Do we really think Gove and Boris are going to go at it with the Conservative Party? They are one and the same, it is a stitch-up.

“The bottom line is we’re going to judicially review it and we will go at it 100 per cent. The net effect is that it will probably delay the referendum.

“The process has been despicable. They have been saying they stitched it up with the Electoral Commission. We got nearly a million supporters.

"We’ve got Ukip, the main campaigning force behind the referendum, and they’ve given it to a bunch of Tories to basically have an internal fight with themselves. It’s crazy … It is a disgrace.”

Haystack - 13 Apr 2016 16:29 - 671 of 12628

So much for unity. If it is delayed then the Autumn is next opportunity.

cynic - 13 Apr 2016 16:30 - 672 of 12628

who is this twit arron banks?
can't even spell his first name correctly :-)

jimmy b - 13 Apr 2016 16:33 - 673 of 12628

He is the man with the money.

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2016 16:37 - 674 of 12628

Are saying that it is a corrupt political decision?

What do you expect in a banana republic?

Haystack - 13 Apr 2016 16:38 - 675 of 12628

Major donor to UKIP. He has been in trouble with authorities a few times over his business dealings and non harassment orders over his wife. Has extensive offshore dealings. Worth about £100m+.

cynic - 13 Apr 2016 16:39 - 676 of 12628

bananas .... and perhaps pineapples too

Fred1new - 13 Apr 2016 16:39 - 677 of 12628

Perhaps it should be Arid.


(lacking in interest, excitement, or meaning.
"his arid years in suburbia"
synonyms: dreary, dull, drab, dry, sterile, banal,)
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