Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Rawhide, Interesting points. If I get up in the morning and I am sober I will reply.


I promise not to shout.

Have a quick look at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4581334.stm

Another thing, Fred. You seem to have this boundless faith in the United Nations. The last useful thing I can recall the United Nations doing was in 1950, when the United Nations, led by the United States, went to war against North Korea when the North Korean Army crossed the 38th parallel and invaded South Korea.

A brief examination of the fates of the peoples on both sides of the 38th parallel now is a pretty adequate illustration of the benefits of of a capitalist democracy versus a totalitarian communist regime.

Well, Fred, with regard to your post 59 - why the sudden coyness?
Whilst I don't doubt your sentiment, the content is evasive.

I take it in your next post that you were in fact also referring to your validity as a person?
Is this a form of psychosis?

About 2,500 turned up at tonight's rally outside the Israeli embassy supporting Israel's right to self defence via the incursions into Gaza

Especially for Dil:-

Its Fred :-)

Eyes in the back of your head

Rawhide, From memory, if you go back 2005 to when Hamas was elected as the government in Gaza, the reasons given that Gazo was left in chaos. Also the majority of the population thought their Fatah representatives were corrupt and had similar opinion of the administration. This was also the opinion of informed external observers. (Israel and The West did not accept the democratic process and result.)
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As far as United Nations aid is concerned I partially agree. I think that it has to be controlled and get to the places it was intended to, rather than siphon off by government officials into private accounts. (But look how America siphoned the aid given to Iraq back into the coffers of large American companies. (Friends of the government. Middle East corruption is nothing compared with Americas.)

The aid should be supervised by United Nations and directed to:-

1) The provision of education of all (male and female) between the age of 5years and 18years, followed with equal opportunity of free University education for both sexes.
2) The provision of a health service
3) The provision of water and sanitation
4) The provision of various other utilities
5) The provision of a decent infrastructure.
6) Etc.

The aid has to be properly administered and accounted for. Also provided only with mutual consent from both sides.

They also need free access to their country via the Mediterranean for trading purposes.
The above will eventually happen in spite of the ostrich mentality of some people.
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Yes, the United Nations needs reform to take in the changes happening the world in general. Unfortunately, at the moment, America, Britain, France, Russia and China would block any sensible steps to reform and to increase its authority and power.

UNESCO with all its faults does carried out valuable work.

As far as propaganda is concerned of the BBC is concerned, check on the Israeli propaganda productions and the Zionist lobby in America.

It will be interesting to see the line Obama will take, because of the way he raised a large amount of funding for his election he may have broken free of the Zionist lobby. Whether his approach to the Middle East and World Politics will be different from previous administrations remains to be seen.


I find it interesting how the level of argument on this board, is at the level of personal abuse. What I expected and amusing.

There are plenty in this country that wouldn't mind a free University education Fred.

"I find it interesting how the level of argument on this board, is at the level of personal abuse. What I expected and amusing."

I'm not sure who's personally abused you, Fred. I thought that everybody here had been quite restrained and was just saying it as they saw it.

I'm sure the temptation has probably been there though.

:o)

I wouldn't mind the free 'Etc' :)

Dil, My wife and I benefited to a certain degree from a free university education and since then paid that money back to society in tax. (Happy to do so.)

As mentioned before, I went to what could be considered a working class university with the majority of students from working and middle class backgrounds. At that time the majority of students were from Grammar schools with a few from Comprehensive schools. The majority of these students would not have been able to have afford that education without those grants.

I think the scrapping of university grants was a folly, as have some of the other moves in education.

Many of those who attended university at the same time as I did have paid less tax subsequently than we did, but by their occupations have often given the non-cash equivalent to society. This has led to the overall improvement in society.

University grants had to be stopped when it was decided that everyone could go there and the Univeristy of Croydon and others were invented.

Haystacks, I was working at Birmingham Polytechnic at the commencement of the of Polytechnics to "University". I think it led to the destruction and world leading institution with many of the leading lecturers moving abroad. The conversion of the Polytechnics to Universities was not in my opinion beneficial and has led to the dumbing down of many of the Universities.

One of my daughters who is back at university for her third degree, is appalled by the present standard of lecturing. Also appalled by the attitude of students on some parts of the courses. (The reason for her wishing to obtain other degrees is that she wishes to specialise in an area which needs multiple backgrounds.)

Dil
You seen this?


:-)

Dailos, Was he looking at you or you sister when he said it!

8-)

For those who look at BBC4 news, there was an interesting summary of the middle east problems by Jeremy Greenstock. Should be repeated a few times this am.

Who sent you that Ruth ... vary apt :-)

I knew youde like it Dil;-)

Dear o dear Fred the last time I saw you (with MG in tow bless him) I seem to remember opening up the conversation with "Ruth has sent me to give you a slapping"

I fear if I ever make another "Brum meet" I may have to give you a slapping for the whole BB - and I am not sure you are physically up to that!

Come to think of it neither am I!

So please Fed stop being a plonker and save us both some grief.