Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I'm sorry Stan I can't take to him or the company he keeps. I see him as a danger to the UK.
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Certainly got you right wing ranters worried.

A danger? don't make me laugh George

Stan I happen to believe we need the Trident deterrent but if it's never going to be used under any circumstances then it is not a deterrent, there's the danger. Hope you've not cracked your face laughing, you ought to try it more often.
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251,

It isn't the glossy wrapping but the contents which counts.

The Bullingdon boys are all wrapping and no content.

However, look at what he actually is saying not what you are led by nose to believe by the neo-cons and the neo-fascists.

What surprises me how many refer to JC as a decent and honest man.

I can't see that being said of many tories in the present cabinet.

I will be interested in 6-12 months time to see what policies JC and his shadow cabinet are proposing.

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Hays,

It more acceptable to look like an idiot than be one like yourself.

Get off to PHQ for another briefing and learning the mantras to recite.

What scenario is Trident preventing.

It is the blustering of a neo-con party and similar to Cameron's blustering negotiations in the EU.

I hope he takes his passport with him next time he visits .

Or perhaps, I would prefer him to spend a night or two in the jungle on the way home.

let's try again .......

so fred, labour were in power for 10 years or more and with an overall majority
did they try to push through a bill to lower the voting age?
if not why not?

Fred he's a hypocrite like so many in the Labour Party.
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Na na na na na.. oh do grow up you RWRs.

shut up stan; let your leader speak for himself ..... sorry; quote from the party manual :-)

There must be some psychiatrists around where Fred lives surely looking for work .

I like Corbyn as Labour leader. He guarantees a Conservative victory in 2020. In case you haven't noticed, the Conservatives have been going easy on him. They won't start attacking him until closer to the election. There is no chance of Labour winning with Corbyn. Let's hope he survives until then. Unfortunately, the betting is that he will go next year. Trident could be the trigger.

The psychiatrists are probably looking for Fred.

Oh do belt up H/S you big slapper -):

Ed: Not forgetting Bamber of course -):

It is certainly entertaining watching the Labour party tearing itself apart. This is just round one. Corbyn is not going to be able to cope when things really kick off. I am expecting an announcement next year that he is stepping down due to health problems (coded version of having a nervous breakdown). There has already been talk of him passing out for a while a few weeks ago. It will be a pity as I would like to see him fight an election. I never thought Labour could find someone worse than Miliband, Foot, Brown and Kinnock.

time you learned that crowing is not only unbecoming, but is likely to lead to the same fate accorded to its close cousin hubris

Plenty to crow about wih Corbyn as Labour's leader. I intend to enjoy the time while he survives. I would prefer ignominious defeat for Labour at the election, rather than Corbyn going and a minor defeat. Corbyn at the head of Labour being thrashed should see the last of the Looney Left for at least a generation.

Bullingdon Club blustering,

Away with the fairies as per usual.

I can visualise some totting up the neo-con U-turns to inscribe on Cameron's tombstone before the next Gen Elect.

I think the pigeons of the period of the conners' misrule will have come home to roost by then.

Out of Europe, laughing stock of the world, begging China to keep the lights on in London.

Charles de Gaulle as the European hub.

Passing through customs and having bank balances and medicial insurance checked before being allowed into Europe.

Nato rejecting the UK as no longer needed.

Sold out to Russian oligarchs, trying to lick the feet of America, and ignored by the ME and South Americas.

What a tab to pick up!

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Anyway, not a bad day.

First time,I have made 30000 in a day for a long time!

Can't all be bad.

http://news.sky.com/story/1606511/eu-unveils-shocking-border-force-plan

EU Unveils 'Shocking' Border Force Plan

The EU has unveiled plans for a new border force with a "right to intervene" without a country's consent.

The 1,500-strong unit would step in when countries failed to control their borders, when they were overwhelmed or when they were simply "unwilling" to act.

Its possible creation comes as one million mainly Syrian refugees and migrants are expected to arrive in the EU this year.

European Commission vice-president Frans Timmermans said the migrant crisis had "exposed clear weaknesses and gaps in existing mechanisms".

"Therefore, it is now time to move to a truly integrated system of border management," he said.

,.............

If Star Wars was about the Labour Party

As The Force Awakens debuts in cinemas, we take a look at some of the classic trilogy's pivotal scenes – as interpreted in the era of Jeremy Corbyn.


By Tom Harris

2:13PM GMT 15 Dec 2015



A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...



On a remote desert planet, young Tristram Skywalker meets a mysterious old man who has heard of, yet never met (even though they’ve been working in the same building for five years).


Tristram: You knew my father?


Cor-Byn Kenobi: He was the best orator in the galaxy. And a good friend. You must train as he did if you’re to come with me to Alderaan. But we have to go via Mos Eisley.

Tristram: Oh, I know it – a wretched hive of scum and villainy!

Cor-Byn: Well, that’s a little judgmental. Let’s just say all the residents are the product of a very challenging environment.


Aboard the Millennium Falcon


En route to Alderaan, Cor-Byn Kenobi suddenly winces, as if in pain.

Tristram: Are you feeling OK?

Cor-Byn: I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of people just got their planet vaporised from under them by the Empire’s gigantic planet-destroying secret weapon.

Tristram: That’s terrible! The fascists!

Cor-Bin Kenobi: Well, let’s not be too hasty. Perhaps the Emprire had a legitimate grievance. After all, the Rebel Alliance have been rather provocative. They’ve reaped the whirlwind, you might say.

Tristram: Remind me why you’re here?


The battle of the Death Star begins


Tristram leads the Red Squadron of Rebel Alliance X-Wing fighters to the space station’s weakest point. Suddenly he hears the disembodied voice of Cor-Byn!

Cor-Byn: Tristram!

Tristram: Cor-Byn? Is that you?

Cor-Byn: Use the force, Tristram.

Tristram: You mean trust in a supernatural God-like force rather than my computer navigational systems?

Cor-Byn: No, I mean use the force of popular civil engagement to mount a non-violent protest!

Tristram: You want me to organise a march and demonstration against the Empire?

Cor-Byn: Of course not!

Tristram: Good.

Cor-Byn: I want you to organise a protest march against the Rebel Alliance to stop it bombing the Empire.

Tristram: Oh, for f--…


In Cloud City


Tristram is confronted by the evil Dark Lord of Hayes and Harlington, Darth McDonnell, and a hideous and unexpected truth.

McDonnell: Cor-Byn never told you what became of your father, did he?

Tristram: I’ll be honest – I think he was losing it a bit. I started tuning out in the end.

McDonnell: I hear ya. But Tristram – I am your father!

Tristram: Really? A bit contrived, don’t you think? Almost as if somebody’s just making this up as they go along.

McDonnell: Yeah, the Labour Party, eh? Tch!

Tristram: Noooo! You’re lying!

Tristram jumps.


Aboard the second Death Star


Darth McDonnell escorts young Skywalker to an audience with the Emperor.

Tristram: I still believe there’s some good in you. Why else would Mum have married you?

McDonnell: I still can’t believe she named you “Tristram”.

Tristram: What’s wrong with it, Dad?

McDonnell: Well, it’s not the kind of name you’d give to a leader of a socialist party, is it?

Tristram: So what would be better?

McDonnell: Well, I don’t know … John? Or even … Ken? Anyway, at least she didn’t send you sent to a private school.

Tristram: Actually, I –

McDonnell: Ah, we’ve arrived outside the Emperor Livingstone’s chambers.

Tristram: Who are the Imperial guards wearing the red masks and uniforms? Pretty intimidating.

McDonnell: I think that one's Seumas Milne.

Tristram: And that one? The one firing at his own troops?

McDonnell: Oh, that'll be Andrew Fisher.


In Emperor Livingstone’s chamber



The Emperor watches as Darth McDonnell and Tristram duel to the death.

McDonnell: Tristram – join me and together, as father and son, we can rule the galaxy!

Emperor Livingstone: I knew I shouldn't have trusted him.

McDonnell: Embrace your destiny, Tristram. Embrace the Left Side!

Tristram: Never! I'll never go over to the Left Side!

McDonnell: But why? It's really not that bad.

Tristram: Because it'll never have a broad enough demographic appeal to secure a majority!

Emperor: Well, no, but ... hello? Imperial dictatorship?

Tristram: Fair point.

Emperor: Young Skywalker – deselect your own father and take his place at my side.

Tristram: As Shadow Chancellor? I’m listening.

Emperor: Well, I was thinking more of Business Innovation and Skills. A really important portfolio, actually.

Tristram: Never! I'll never settle for that!

Emperor: Very well, then – I will deselect you myself!

McDonnell: NOOO!

McDonnell leaps forward and gives the Emperor a really nasty Chinese burn.

Emperor: Ow! What was that for? Look, you've left a mark and everything!

McDonnell: Sorry, Ken, but he's my son!

Emperor: You have a son called Tristram?

McDonnell: I know, I know …


As Darth McDonnell lies dying


Mortally wounded by some inexplicable but cool-looking special effects, Darth McDonnell is cradled by his son.

McDonnell: I'm glad I got to see you with my own eyes before I die. So, er ... what are you going to do with me now?

Tristram: I'll probably burn you on a pyre.

McDonnell: Really?

Tristram: Yeah, but I'll fish your helmet out before it melts. I think we'll need it as a prop again in about 30-odd years...