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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic - 15 Feb 2013 09:35 - 6624 of 6906

exactly so, as is now most assuredly the case by the so-called islamic fundamentalists, who have chosen to forget (and bury) the fact that islam is a most tolerant religion at heart - should really say "fundamentally"!

Fred1new - 15 Feb 2013 10:09 - 6625 of 6906

Cynic,

Perhaps, should have used "propagating" rather than "practising".

=================

The sun is shining here, allow yourself a smile or two.

cynic - 15 Feb 2013 10:15 - 6626 of 6906

here too, as it was on the golf course yesterday afternoon :-)

cynic - 17 Feb 2013 09:20 - 6627 of 6906

an extract below re Syria ..... how come "The West" always looks to be half a pitch behind the game every time?

Jabah al Haq (this is one of the jihaidst groups fighting alongside the "rebels") is led by a charismatic young cleric called Sheik Abu al Homan.
I was taken to a secret location where a school was being used as a court to adjudicate on the many problems caused by the war raging across the city.
It is a strict Sharia court and he is advised by clerics and lawyers. That said, his word is law.
He was quiet and pleasant and his organisation is doing what every Jihad organisation from the Taliban to Hamas and al Qaeda has done: they are providing law and order and they are feeding and providing medicine for the people.
It works every time.

Haystack - 24 Feb 2013 23:59 - 6628 of 6906

This is from an Israeli newspaper

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/after-palestinian-prisoner-dies-in-shin-bet-hands-time-to-question-the-interrogators.premium-1.505533


After Palestinian prisoner dies in Shin Bet hands, time to question the interrogators

For years, Palestinian detainees and prisoners have complained about sleep deprivation, painful and prolonged handcuffing, humiliation, beatings and medical neglect. By international standards, this is torture.

Arafat Jaradat, 30, died while under interrogation by the Shin Bet security service. Every week dozens if not hundreds of Palestinians start down the road he began on February 18.

fahel - 01 Mar 2013 13:25 - 6629 of 6906

5 Broken Cameras (2011)

The Oscar nominated Palestinian Documentary

A documentary on a Palestinian farmer's chronicle of his nonviolent resistance to the actions of the Israeli army.
http://viooz.eu/movies/15366-5-broken-cameras-2011.html

Haystack - 03 Mar 2013 13:48 - 6630 of 6906

Haystack - 03 Mar 2013 14:03 - 6631 of 6906

Is this more like segregation in the US, apartheid in SA or Nazi Germany?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israel-introduces-palestinian-only-bus-lines-following-complaints-from-jewish-settlers-1.506869


Starting on Monday, certain buses running from the West Bank into central Israel will have separate lines for Jews and Arabs.

The Afikim bus company will begin operating Palestinian-only bus lines from the checkpoints to Gush Dan to prevent Palestinians from boarding buses with Jewish passengers.

The buses will begin operating Monday morning at the Eyal crossing to take the Palestinians to work in Israel. Transportation Ministry officials are not officially calling them segregated buses, but rather bus lines intended to relieve the distress of the Palestinian workers. Ynet has reported that fliers are being distributed to Palestinian workers notifying them of the coming changes.

Any Palestinian who holds an entrance permit to the State of Israel is allowed by law to use public transportation. Officials at the Samaria and Judea District Police have said there is no change in the operation of the rest of the buses, nor is there any intention to remove Palestinians from other bus lines. But Haaretz has in the past reported incidents when Palestinians were taken off of buses, and witnesses at checkpoints say that such incidents are ongoing.

Ofra Yeshua-Lyth is a member of Machsom Watch, a female advocacy group monitoring West Bank checkpoints. She says that recently, Bus 286 from Tel Aviv to Samaria arrived at a checkpoint filled with Palestinian workers. She filed the following report:

"Police officer Advanced Staff Sergeant Major Shai Zecharia stops the bus at the bus stop. Soldiers order all the Palestinians off the bus. The first thing they do is collect all their identity cards as they get off. One by one, the Palestinians are told to go away from the bus stop and walk to the Azzun Atma checkpoint, which is about 2.5 kilometers away from the Shaar Shomron interchange. All of them responded with restraint and sadness, at most asking why. Here and there they received answers such as, ‘You’re not allowed on Highway 5’ and ‘You’re not allowed on public transportation.’ Advanced Staff Sergeant Major Zecharia gave some vital information to one of the older Palestinians who had arrived there, telling him: You should ride in special vans, not on Israeli buses.”

Fred1new - 03 Mar 2013 16:59 - 6632 of 6906

Charming!

yuff - 05 Mar 2013 15:39 - 6633 of 6906

Dont always believe what is printed

Haystack - 05 Mar 2013 16:37 - 6634 of 6906

It was a major Israeli newspaper - Haaretz! It was also reported in the Jerusalem Post, another Israeli newspaper.

The story is widely reported. This from NBC

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/05/17194265-a-palestinian-rosa-parks-is-needed-israels-segregated-buses-spark-outrage

'A Palestinian Rosa Parks is needed': Israel's segregated buses spark outrage

By Martin Fletcher, Correspondent, NBC News

TEL AVIV -- For a country fighting allegations of racism and apartheid against its Arab citizens, introducing a "Palestinian-only" bus line for workers entering Israel from the West Bank may not be the smartest move.

The line came into operation Monday and immediately had Israeli human rights groups up in arms.

Zahava Gal-On, the leader of the leftist political party Meretz, demanded that the transport ministry "immediately cancel the segregated lines in the West Bank."

"Separate bus lines for Palestinians prove that occupation and democracy cannot coexist," she added.

Jessica Montell, director of the B'Tselem rights group, also criticized the move. "Creating separate bus lines for Israeli Jews and Palestinians is a revolting plan," she told Army Radio.

Palestinians with entry permits to work in central Israel must now all converge on one single crossing point, at Eyal near Qalqilya, where the new line operates, leading to delays.

A riot broke out Tuesday morning when Palestinians discovered there were not enough buses to take them all to their jobs in Israel.

According to Gal-On and other sources, the move follows pressure from Jewish settlers, who also cross from the West Bank into Israel to work, and who objected to sharing their buses with Palestinians.

One Israeli newspaper, Yediot Aharanot, quoted an Israeli Peace Now activist as saying: “A Palestinian Rosa Parks is needed to insist upon sitting on Jewish bus lines, (someone) who won't surrender to discrimination."

Haystack - 05 Mar 2013 23:05 - 6635 of 6906

"targeting the dorms of Harvard students lends itself to creating tension, isolating students and fomenting hostility."

Isn't that what evicting Palestinians does?

Pro-Palestinian students post 'eviction notices' in Harvard

By SAM SOKOL

03/05/2013 22:07

The Anti-Defamation League expressed its outrage on Tuesday following reports that, as part of the "Israel apartheid week" activities at Harvard, members of the university's Palestine Solidarity Committee posted notices on students' dorm room doors informing them that "your suite is scheduled for demolition in the next three days”

ADL regional director Robert Trestan noted that “Free expression has a place on campus; however targeting the dorms of Harvard students lends itself to creating tension, isolating students and fomenting hostility.

Haystack - 05 Mar 2013 23:17 - 6636 of 6906

It is the 9th annual

Israel Apartheid Week


http://apartheidweek.org/

Haystack - 07 Mar 2013 20:31 - 6637 of 6906

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/europe-settlement-products-are-tainted-goods.premium-1.506864

Europe: Settlement products are tainted goods

Even if last week's leaked recommendation by EU consuls to impose a strict settlement produce boycott would have minimal economic impact on Israel, its true power is to show that the EU is simply fed up of Israel's pro-settlement, anti-negotiations and anti-European behavior.

Netherlands calls on stores to label products from Israeli settlements

Dutch follow British lead, but emphasize it is not illegal to import goods from territories. Other European countries expected to follow suit in coming weeks.

The Dutch government has for the first time called for retail chains in the Netherlands to state the origin of products from West Bank settlements, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights.

Haystack - 08 Mar 2013 12:13 - 6638 of 6906

More Israeli apartheid and racism!

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/acre-jews-protest-sale-of-home-to-arabs-raising-ethnic-tensions.premium-1.507993

Acre Jews protest sale of home to Arabs, raising ethnic tensions
Local Arab activist: ‘They’re not building for Arabs and won’t let them live with Jews, so where are we supposed to go?’

The sale of a house to an Arab family in a new development in northern Acre is causing a stir among neighborhood residents, and reopening the public debate on Jewish and Arab residential areas.

TANKER - 01 Apr 2013 15:34 - 6639 of 6906

HAY i was wrong about gaza having listened to GRANT SNAPPS ON TV
YOU ARE CORRECT AND WILL NEVER SUPPORT JEWS AGAIN .
history said hitler was evil well he is not in the league as this government

Haystack - 23 Apr 2013 08:58 - 6640 of 6906

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/EU-working-on-guidelines-to-label-West-Bank-products-310760

EU working on plan to label settlement products

Spokesperson tells 'The Jerusalem Post' that EU pursuing efforts to ensure correct labeling of settlement goods.

The European Union is working on legal guidelines for any member states that might choose to clearly label products produced in West Bank settlements, according to diplomatic sources.

“We are pursuing efforts to ensure correct labeling of settlement goods as tasked by the council,” an EU spokesperson told The Jerusalem Post on Monday.

The work now underway in Brussels to create guidelines for the sale of West Bank settlement products follows a December 2012 conclusion by an EU meeting of foreign ministers that all agreements with Israel “must unequivocally and explicitly indicate their inapplicability to the territories occupied by Israel in 1967, namely the Golan Heights; the West Bank, including east Jerusalem; and the Gaza Strip.”

Postal codes placed on these products already alert European custom officials that the products are produced over the pre-1967 line and are thus not part of the EU’s free trade understanding with Israel.

But the label still reads “made in Israel” and the consumer cannot distinguish on which side of the pre-1967 line the product was produced.

Last week 13 European foreign ministers sent a letter to the EU’s Foreign Policy chief Catherine Ashton in which they applauded this work.

“We warmly welcome your commitment to work with fellow commissioners to prepare EU-wide guidelines on the labeling of settlement [products],” the letter said.

“This is an important step to ensure correct and coherent implementation of EU consumer protection and labeling legislation which is in fulfillment of our previous commitments and is fully consistent with long standing EU policy in relation to Israeli settlements in the Occupied Territories,” the letter continued.

“Our consumers have the right to an informed choice. This initiative will help support our retailers to provide this. The correct labeling of products is necessary to ensure our consumers are not being misled by false information.”

cynic - 25 Apr 2013 11:25 - 6641 of 6906

so you think that chickens sold with an EU stamp on them are bred, raised and processed within EU?
dream on!
a huge % of them come from places like thailand and are merely processed in EU, but thereby qualify for an EU stamp

Haystack - 04 May 2013 10:50 - 6642 of 6906

Use www.Google.ps

http://m.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/03/google-palestine-palestinian-territories

When the UN recognized Palestine as an observer state last November, Israel retaliated by announcing new settlements. Now an organization of arguably greater authority has recognized Palestine: Google.

On Friday, the search engine changed the tagline on its home page in the occupied territories from "Palestinian territories" to, simply, "Palestine".

"We consult a number of sources and authorities when naming countries," a Google spokesman, Nathan Tyler, told the BBC. "In this case, we are following the lead of the UN, Icann [Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers], ISO [International Organisation for Standardisation] and other international organisations."

What to call the area south of Lebanon and Syria, west of Jordan and north of Sinai that isn't Israel is a matter of fierce debate. Before 1948 the entire area, including present-day Israel, was called Palestine. In 1988, leaders of the remaining territory declared a state of Palestine, but the state has had trouble gaining recognition. In November's UN vote, 138 nations voted to recognize a state of Palestine, nine voted against and 41 abstained.

Google's homeland, the United States, is currently the most powerful opponent of recognizing Palestine.

Haystack - 10 May 2013 22:26 - 6643 of 6906

Professor Stephen Hawking is backing the academic boycott of Israel by pulling out of a conference hosted by Israeli president Shimon Peres in Jerusalem as a protest at Israel's treatment of Palestinians.

Hawking, 71, the world-renowned theoretical physicist and former Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at the University of Cambridge, had accepted an invitation to headline the fifth annual president's conference, Facing Tomorrow, in June, which features major international personalities, attracts thousands of participants and this year will celebrate Peres's 90th birthday.

Hawking is in very poor health, but last week he wrote a brief letter to the Israeli president to say he had changed his mind. He has not announced his decision publicly, but a statement published by the British Committee for the Universities of Palestine with Hawking's approval described it as "his independent decision to respect the boycott, based upon his knowledge of Palestine, and on the unanimous advice of his own academic contacts there".

Hawking's decision marks another victory in the campaign for boycott, divestment and sanctions targeting Israeli academic institutions.

In April the Teachers' Union of Ireland became the first lecturers' association in Europe to call for an academic boycott of Israel, and in the United States members of the Association for Asian American Studies voted to support a boycott, the first national academic group to do so.

In the four weeks since Hawking's participation in the Jerusalem event was announced, he has been bombarded with messages from Britain and abroad as part of an intense campaign by boycott supporters trying to persuade him to change his mind. In the end, Hawking told friends, he decided to follow the advice of Palestinian colleagues who unanimously agreed that he should not attend.
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