Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays,

Is this your self-portrait:

66437 - i just thought the article rather amusing .... unlike fred, i was never going to get silly about it

lest you did not notice, the poll sample was only 530, so scarcely even a state-full, even somewhere like nebraska

The estuary airport has been rejected by several studies. The people living near Heathrow even want it there as it provides employment. There has been an airport there since WWII. If you buy a house near an airport then expect noise and the chance of your house being knocked down. It is the same as buying a house on top of a cliff or one on a flood plain.

i am quite surprised that northolt is not or cannot be used for a number of flights, especially those that use smaller planes

Northolt does do civilian flights apart from RAF. It is used for corporate small business jets. There would be problems with expanding it due RAF traffic. Years ago it was a very secure site as air traffic control was based there and West Drayton, now at Southampton I believe. It was also home to a major part of our 4 minute warning missile tracking system connected to Filingdale in Yorkshire called Linesman/Mediator.

Jimmy Hill snuffs it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hill

A fantastic innovator in so many positive ways for Football in this Country.

Could be the Con party's or UKIP's dressing room.

Heathrow is a redundant white elephant !.....if you shoot yourself in the foot once by accident ; you don't keep on doing it !....it started off with tents shortly after the second world war but now with modern aviation it is time to move on...people with jobs at heathrow would have jobs at the estuary airport of course...times move on...that is the problem in Britain...we just don't look ahead...a third runway is a bad quick fix...(if you can call it quick)...haystack...you talk about noise...but that's partly the problem....ask people around the Staines, Twickenham, Richmond areas...I'm sure they are thrilled to bits about a third runway ...also incorporated in a massive new development out in the thames would be a new Thames barrier...a new tunnel under the Thames linking motorways...shopping...parking...fast connections to london and the continent attracting overseas travellers...also the need to incorporate flights from space should be looked at...we would be miles ahead of everbodyelse if this got the thumbs up !....

Northolt has nothing to do with Heathrow....

It wasn't an ideal site as it is buit on gravel pits, which is why its general dampness causes so much fog in the area. My mother remembered digging potatoes in WWII where the main runway is while she was in the Land Army. Until Heathrow, the London airport was Croydon which is now just a flying club and airport for light aircraft.

I would choose Heathrow due to connection into Central London. There is the Gatwick express, but road connection into London is appalling. There is plenty of land around Heathrow after you have flattened a few houses. If we could afford it, I would build at both places and Stanstead.

It looks certain to be Heathrow, so it is pretty much academic what we think.

No you would not build at Stansted. :-))

At least 2 more runways at Stanstead. Plenty of land and a few houses to flatten!

stanstead is a real dog's bottom to access

Perhaps not first choice due to the distance from London.

i guess that's also one of the probs with an estuary airport ..... there are many other valid objections too

I like Stanstead and have used it more than any other airport. It depends on were you live. The M11 is great and there is the Stanstead Express right into the airport. Heathrow is good for me, but Gatwick means crossing London North to South or going half way round M25 with risks of jams making you miss your flight. Gatwick is good if you don't have your car with you.

the prob is M25+M11, though i agree there is a link from L'pool Street if i remember correctly

in many ways, i like the idea of the estuary airport, though the amount of infrastructure that would need to be inserted is not only daunting, but the time it would take, could be measured in decades ..... there are of course a number of other considerations, not least being ecological

Janner snuffs it now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

David Cameron must exercise “strong leadership” and have a third runway atHeathrow airport built, the president of Britain’s biggest lobby group will say on Monday.
CBI president Paul Drechsler will increase pressure in the contentious debate on Heathrow’s expansion by urging the government to end “the cycle of politicisation and procrastination” that he says has plagued British infrastructure for decades.

Welcoming the government’s new national infrastructure commission, Mr Drechsler will tell theCBI’s annual conference that the government must not duck pressing infrastructure decisions, such as airport capacity.
He will say: “On airport capacity, we need strong political leadership and
action from government. Britain needs that new runway, so let’s get it built.”



Probably, means Heathrow doesn't have a cat in hells chance meaning!

Of course, unless the "Out of Europe" brigade wins and Dodgy Dave resigns or loses a vote of confidence.

What about Manston in Kent?

11000ft runway, avionics, no need to fly over London, good road/rail links.


It's got to be better than expanding Heathrow, as is almost any of the other suggestions.

Anyone been on the M25 lately?