Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred for an unbiased view. ''The tories are at one another's throats''. Could equally be true of Labour.
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fred will merely write whatever tripe he likes to dream up, always provided it's a swipe at the tories

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Seems to be.

But largely down to disappointed MPs who didn't have the expectancies or hopes of their futures "careers" fulfilled.

Arguing for policies or policy changes are acceptable, but not personal baseless personal attacks.


But the Neo-cons disharmony doesn't get paraded in the media to the same extent.

Of course, there are also party apparatchiks like Haze and ilk.

But, perhaps, it is due to Cameron cosying up to Murdock and the right winged press again.

I wonder what the price of the deal will turn out to be.

Reminds me of a Stalinist or Fascist state and suppression of information.

-==-=-==

The scale of the attacks on women at the city's central railway station has shocked Germany. About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved.
City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said.

BBC News today

where was this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046

The justice minister warned against linking the crimes to the issue of migrants and refugees. Seems to me that there lot's of links as he calls them

I would think that Merkel would very much not like that to be the case , the German people have a lot to thank her for !!

The so called hierarchy are in total denial.
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so what self-respecting woman would be wandering around the reeperbahn and central station late at night, let alone on ny eve?

i don't much doubt that there were organised gangs, though who did the organising is another matter and for what actual motive? ...... potential disinformation comes readily to mind

Those women should be able to walk where and when they want without having to deal with hundreds of animals attacking them .
Send in the riot squad ,club them and drag them by the ankles to jail..

Then put them all on a boat home , Merkel will never admit she was wrong .

Your reply shows that you did not read (or understand) the link.
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on edit
For cynic

i admit i only read it quickly, but does it not occur to you that it might suit various factions to make it seem that these are gangs of immigrants? ...... shock horror! how could that ever be?

Although admitting to have read it quickly it didn't stop you from forming a totally inaccurate assessment together with crass remarks about the women involved.
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Sounds similar to an English Football Club party on a Saturday night!

if you say so george ....... would you allow any of your womenfolk to wander around in those areas? ...... both locations are notorious for crime and prostitution and drugs of all kinds

and my comment re potential disinformation also still stands

"Fred1new - 05 Jan 2016 17:02 - 66743 of 66744

Sounds similar to and English Football Club party on a Saturday night!"

What game was that then Fred? -):

Cynic----''The pretty Christmas market and medieval setting may look idyllic, but at Christmas and New Year the area around Cologne Cathedral is a notorious danger zone when it comes to pickpockets and theft.'' ----This is no different to many big cities in the UK.
Now the sexual harassment, and in one case rape, of dozens of women has shocked Germany.
A man was powerless to help his partner and 15 year old daughter when they were surrounded and both females breasts were grabbed and they were groped between their legs. A volunteer policewoman was also sexually molested
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2517,

We are lucky in the UK:


Here are some key statistics about sexual violence:

Approximately 85,000 women and 12,000 men are raped in England and Wales alone every year; that's roughly 11 rapes (of adults alone) every hour
Nearly half a million adults are sexually assaulted in England and Wales each year
1 in 5 women aged 16 - 59 has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16
Only around 15% of those who experience sexual violence choose to report to the police
Approximately 90% of those who are raped know the perpetrator prior to the offence
These figures come from An Overview of Sexual Offending in England and Wales, the first ever joint official statistics bulletin on sexual violence released by the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), Office for National Statistics (ONS) and Home Office in January 2013.

george - re-read yours and you may see why i need comment no further; no doubt the reporting is also "enhanced"

Fred.

Those stats for England and Wales are pretty meaningless as a defense for the german rapes, unless you publish like for like figs.

It's fairly plain to see that Ma Merkel's open door policy is not doing the average German any favours.


I wonder what the real reason was for this disastrous policy?