Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

V - snipe as much as you like ....clearly you don't do in depth and have predefined preferences, for otherwise you would trawl back to see what i have been writing in recent months

No I do understand your previous posts and what you are about , I don't see your theory on this Cologne at all . We are seeing the start of big trouble in my mind and if Police don't clamp down well I pray we will suffer for it .

Yes but ideally they must be Local and or Organic (if thats possible) or failing that from here http://www.manxkippers.com/

bbc news

Police eventually evacuated the area because of the risk of injury from the fireworks.
But gangs of youths soon returned and carried out dozens of attacks over a number of hours with little apparent response from the local authorities until well after midnight.
Mr de Maiziere criticised police for allowing the attackers to return. The square was evacuated, he said, "and then later these events take place and they wait for complaints. The police shouldn't work like this".

Cynic wanted to know why there was no arrests at the time.

police union chief Rainer Wendt said a lack of resources had meant that the Cologne force had been unable to clear the square properly.

The mayor of Cologne has summoned police for crisis talks after about 80 women reported sexual assaults and muggings by men on New Year's Eve.
The scale of the attacks on women at the city's central railway station has shocked Germany. About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved.
City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said.
Women were also targeted in Hamburg.
But the Cologne assaults - near the city's iconic cathedral - were the most serious, German media report. At least one woman was raped, and many were groped.
Most of the crimes reported to police were robberies. A volunteer policewoman was among those sexually molested.

thanks V ..... unlike some, i don't take umbrage when people take a pop at me when i stick my head above the parapet

however, i hope you would agree that things should not necessarily be taken at face value, and i think this is one such instance

nevertheless, even if this was an orchestrated occurrence, it still highlights the concern felt among many germans

fred reckons letting in (all) the refugees into germany was a fine humanitarian and economically shrewd move .....
perhaps he is unaware that there has long been an undercurrent of racism (not quite the right word) aimed at the gastarbeite, and in particular those of turkish origin, but this is perhaps now becoming more crystalised

I do admire your posts c . I think I'm a bit scared for Britains future I don't like what's coming , I feel useless and powerless to be honest .

So you should VIC because the politically correct have gone stark raving bonkers ,we can turn this around and with what's going on i think folk might start to say enough ....

V - flattery gets you everywhere :-)

i know many of you think that leaving eu would resolve a huge number of problems, not least being able to stop all immigration, deport any who transgress etc etc
sounds great, but i'm sure the actuality and indeed the desirability of "shutting the doors" would bring plenty of other problems in its wake

Really?

What problems are those c?

Whatever goes on either way , I don't see the answer being that you just take in many thousands of foreigners . they must start thinking of other ways not thought of before over these problems . All we are doing is spreading other cultures problems around the World . Europe is fast becoming Africa / Mid East with all it's free riders , heaven help us if there is a real downturn .

max - i'm not nearly clever enough, but experience tells me that things almost never work out as first appears should happen

V - i feel we have a strong moral and humanitarian obligation towards genuine war refugees such as the syrians ......
however, i also think DC is right to limit those numbers - 20,000 over 4 years is pretty pathetic for all that - and certainly to accept only those from local syrian camps, where there is at least some chance that the people can be properly vetted

Max, Victim and few others.

I would suggest that you get and read and examine Paul Mason's book "Postcapitalism, A Guide to the Future.

Part 1 for me was difficult, Part 2 a little easier.

But it summarised the changes, successes and failures of in European and World economies and the various policies and effects.

A little heavy going, but it did highlight the problems with simple solutions to increasing globalisation.

Also, may cause some to think about the possible increasing problems and consequences of being a little England.

Trying to seal one selves from the EU won't work.

Little England what's that mean , the most stupid term used by stupid people there is . So some people actually like England and Britain shame on them eh . People lost their lives fighting for this bit of land mate .

Fred is Welsh, nuff said.

Not one comment re adjusting school exams to suit our Muslim brothers I notice LOL!!

V - People lost their lives fighting for this bit of land mate = wrong and wrong argument anyway ......

but assuredly i can't be remotely arsed with fred's reading list either; that's clearly no more than guesswork as are economists' forecasts

however, and for no cogent reason, i am almost certain that i shall vote to stay in eu ...... assuredly (unlike fred on past record!) i shall not abstain and then blame everyone else for the outcome

Vic.

I suppose the rest of Europe, the "colonies", the USA and a large % of the majority of "world" didn't help in the defence of your "little England".

Check the Casualty lists of WW1, WW2 etc..

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Oh dear i bet Fred's saying that all these women are lying ,that more than a hundred made it up .
These animals will take over Europe one day mark my words .