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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 04 Apr 2017 20:31 - 6723 of 12628

I drink homemade Ginger beer.

Ginger, brown sugar, yeast and water.


Far more enjoyable and cheap.

MaxK - 04 Apr 2017 23:23 - 6724 of 12628

Robbed from across the road..


cynic - 05 Apr 2017 07:48 - 6725 of 12628

that's a great cartoon, regardless of whether you agree with the sentiment


fred - surely the trouble with homemade ginger beer and similar is that you have to keep making it for otherwise the mother yeast dies? ....... or is that another bit of cynic crap?

VICTIM - 05 Apr 2017 08:08 - 6726 of 12628

Are you sure it's Ginger beer , I would have thought that he sucked a LEMON first thing every morning , just to set himself up for the day .

Fred1new - 05 Apr 2017 08:24 - 6727 of 12628

Manuel.


To be honest, I was leg pulling.

From memory, as a boy, I did make Ginger beer and kept it going for a month or two by using a couple of spoonfuls of the "old" brew.

In a way similar to making a sourdough starter which I sometimes use for making bread.

I keep it in the fridge, but my problem is remembering to wake it up a day before I want to use it.

cynic - 05 Apr 2017 09:28 - 6728 of 12628

i never made it, but there were plenty of anecdotal stories of bottles exploding everywhere ...... ditto making your own beer

required field - 05 Apr 2017 09:38 - 6729 of 12628

Aldwickkk..(post6694)......of course yes I voted to leave.....as we are paying too much to be part of the EU....and too many illegal immigrants here....

cynic - 05 Apr 2017 09:54 - 6730 of 12628

so did i though prhaps not for the same reasons

however, untying the gordian knot was never going to be easy or quick, whatever the unthinking (brainless?) knobheads may choose to imagine

ExecLine - 05 Apr 2017 10:39 - 6731 of 12628

I do remember the home-made ginger beer my mum made when I was a kid, used to give me terrible guts ache. It did look to be absolutely vile stuff, fermenting away in a large glazed pottery panchion underneath a tea cloth in the kitchen. But after decanting it did taste truly marvellous.

To my best recollection, she used fresh yeast, which resembled stiff beige margarine, for each brew. I don't recollect, that it was alcoholic, although it probably might well have been about 3-5%. She used to keep it in old glass stoppered lemonade bottles, which did fizz quite a bit when you gently opened them. None exploded though.

ExecLine - 05 Apr 2017 10:55 - 6732 of 12628

Nigel criticises the EU's response to our Article 50, calls the EU 'the Mafia', gets a rebuke and so changes it to 'gangsters':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=FnOUSYu2Tz0

As to the EU asking us for £50B to pay a debt to go, he reminds them, that the very building in which everyone is now sitting was built partly with UK money - and so we obviously own a share of it - so they should be paying money back to us as we leave!

As usual, he is completely on the button with his remarks and extremely watchable.

ExecLine - 05 Apr 2017 11:12 - 6733 of 12628

And here's Nigel making some more very important points on topics, such as loss of our electricity industry, steel industry, refining industry and more, all because of EU rules. (He also mentions the high sugar content of 'ginger beer' towards the end too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaGx8cWMHk

And not only the industry losses but the jobs that went with them too.




Fred1new - 05 Apr 2017 11:33 - 6734 of 12628

You could use "any" yeast to ferment the sugar in the "ginger" beer mix.

Homemade can be fermented up to 10-11% alcohol, but usually ends up 2-4% onr less.

In the distant past, Ginger Beer PLANTS could be bought from food Markets and consisted of Ground dry ginger and baker's or brewer's yeast (variety).

(Basically, a profitable con.)

Just a starter for the other ingredients you had to add.

-=====


Almost feel like making once again.

Could set up a stall.

Perhaps, I will make my grandson an excuse for doing so.

mentor - 05 Apr 2017 12:47 - 6735 of 12628

Some people talk a lot of Bull in order to get their aim, it reminds me of "Freda"..........

The Daily Telegraph:
The head of JP Morgan has admitted he will not move many jobs out of Britain in the next two years as a result of Brexit,
in a U-turn on his pre-referendum warning that a vote to leave the European Union could mean as many as 4,000 jobs
moving across the Channel.

2517GEORGE - 05 Apr 2017 13:24 - 6736 of 12628

Yet another one (J. Dimon) whose threats to try and frighten people into voting Remain turned out to be nothing more than bluster.

Fred1new - 05 Apr 2017 14:29 - 6737 of 12628

Spreading a little human misery around like a professional carpetbagger.

VICTIM - 05 Apr 2017 15:20 - 6738 of 12628

A BIT LIKE YOU FREDA .

iturama - 05 Apr 2017 15:36 - 6739 of 12628

I'm off to show my support for gibraltAr.

A former beauty queen has become Gibraltar's youngest-ever mayor, and immediately declared the territory "will always be British"
Kaiane Lopez, 30, is a former Miss World and was declared mayor of the territory on Tuesday.
She said "I am proud to be British. Gibraltar is British and always will be. Why would we ever want to change our flag.
Local media has described Ms Lopez as "the most beautiful mayor in the world".

Fred1new - 05 Apr 2017 15:52 - 6740 of 12628


"Watch out for the troll,
For the troll, for the troll.
Watch out for the troll,
The big, bad troll."

VICTIM - 05 Apr 2017 15:54 - 6741 of 12628

OCD eh .

Fred1new - 05 Apr 2017 16:09 - 6742 of 12628

It,

I hope you are not using PacNet.
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