Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

"A democracy where you musn't rock the boat Stan" says who RF?

Answer

Jean-Claude Junker said early in 2015: “There can be no democratic choice against European Treaties.”

That's who Stan.
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Good on you, Katie H.

It's ok we are very near to voting out of the EU , just about everyone i talk to from all walks of life have had enough .

First we will have to endure the bombardment of stay in material from Cameron and many establishments who have their own interests at heart.

Farage will be very important in the coming months along with Euro sceptics from all parties ..

We will then be asked to vote again jb, and perhaps again after that.
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Why GEORGE ????

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/637836/Brussels-Panicked-EU-leaders-EXPEL-Greece-migrant-crisis?ref=yfp

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/638181/Police-flee-angry-migrants-officers-attempt-rescue-chlid-rape-victim

Animals ..

"A democracy where you musn't rock the boat Stan" says who RF?

"Answer

Jean-Claude Junker said early in 2015: “There can be no democratic choice against European Treaties.”

That's who Stan.
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Calm down George RF was jumping between topics I was referring to his BBC thread and not any other and I stand by that.

A Brazilian Wife "it"? bet she's good at womens football then -):

"I think criminal behaviour in buggering young boys is up the scale from being a ratbag and not recognising a daughter. Presumably Parkinson had to pay maintenance at the very least."

And who makes the laws? party Politicians from the 2/3 largest right wing parties (when in government) ..thats the problem about saying that only laws are totally unacceptable for a public servant to commit and if there not then well "it's alright then" which seems to be the line.

I would suggest the 2 examples given are both clearly wrong in most reasonable peoples eyes weather they are laws or not.

jimmy b

Its out of control , the UK should have complete lock down on any entering the UK and deporting those who abuse our laws. And have complete background check's on those coming here, and a points system that UKIP has asked for.

The bigger picture is that this illegal immigrant shambles is going to make people vote for leaving the EU.....and who can blame them....something has to be done...I reckon that people are employing these migrants in the catering business...on farms ...etc..and paying them nothing...so there is some unpunished dodgy people trafficking going on !..

Sorry for the tardy reply jimmy b, your post 67366----It's what the EU does if the vote is not to their liking.
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A piece from Moneyweek's Capital & Conflict

Former Polish deputy minister Leszek Balcerowicz made it clear that ‘Brexit’ would trigger a punishing response by the EU. Britain would be made an example of to prevent ‘Brexit’ from giving any other countries ideas. The former deputy minister said:

We should not encourage other populist forces campaigning on exit such as National Front in France or Podemos in Spain. This is a very important consideration. This is in the interests of Europe that we do not encourage other EU countries to leave. The common interest of remaining members is to deter other exits. This should have an impact on the terms Britain gets.
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GEORGE , i think the EU is close to falling apart anyway ,look at my link 67367 .

Interesting read JB, it goes to show how together (not) the member countries are, whether it is right or wrong to abandon Greece now I don't know, but let's not forget they allowed Greece to join the EU when they (Greece) did not fulfill the required criteria.
The EU can wave cheerio to any Greek loans now I reckon.
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Europe should be down there helping to keep their (Greece) border safe instead of telling them to sort it out themselves .
Europe could come together and man it's borders if it so wished .

If we were to leave the EU then London would could well lose lots of its importance.

I love to hear Farage explaining all his stuff but a Brexit isn't a done deal yet, IMHO.

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I don't agree with that statement ( London would could well lose lots of its importance)
Exec other than the EU are saying we should be punished if we leave ,which just about sums up Juncker .Tusk and the EU .

https://leave.eu/

From the Leave EU website ..

21 January 2016

Responding to the Prime Minister's speech in Davos, Leave.EU CEO Liz Bilney said:

"The fact that the Prime Minister is begging for international corporations to stick their noses into our democratic process only shows how little he and the elite care for ordinary British citizens. This referendum is about our needs, not theirs."

"The Prime Minister's only spoke of economic reasons for remaining, none of which which are dependent on our membership of the EU. His negotiation will do nothing to solve the migration crisis, the steel crisis, the flooding crisis or whatever the next inevitable EU crisis may be. Only through Britain regaining control of its laws, its borders and its taxes can we begin to avoid those EU crises and solve their problems we inherit.

"The remain campaign may have establishment characters from the past, such as Mandelson, Kinnock and Tony Blair. But what they don't have are any valid reasons for staying in beyond the vested interests of their paymasters. With them now being joined by Wall Street bankers Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan this debate is gearing up to be the establishment versus the people."

If you were looking to join a club why would you choose to join this one.
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