Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I don't agree with that statement ( London would could well lose lots of its importance)
Exec other than the EU are saying we should be punished if we leave ,which just about sums up Juncker .Tusk and the EU .

https://leave.eu/

From the Leave EU website ..

21 January 2016

Responding to the Prime Minister's speech in Davos, Leave.EU CEO Liz Bilney said:

"The fact that the Prime Minister is begging for international corporations to stick their noses into our democratic process only shows how little he and the elite care for ordinary British citizens. This referendum is about our needs, not theirs."

"The Prime Minister's only spoke of economic reasons for remaining, none of which which are dependent on our membership of the EU. His negotiation will do nothing to solve the migration crisis, the steel crisis, the flooding crisis or whatever the next inevitable EU crisis may be. Only through Britain regaining control of its laws, its borders and its taxes can we begin to avoid those EU crises and solve their problems we inherit.

"The remain campaign may have establishment characters from the past, such as Mandelson, Kinnock and Tony Blair. But what they don't have are any valid reasons for staying in beyond the vested interests of their paymasters. With them now being joined by Wall Street bankers Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan this debate is gearing up to be the establishment versus the people."

If you were looking to join a club why would you choose to join this one.
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Is that to me GEORGE ? i am not looking to join a club ,i do however read a lot on the in's and out's of the EU .

Sorry JB, by club I meant the EU and it was just a general question, not to you specifically.
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Yes it looks like a pretty rubbish to join .

Who would indeed join a club where you contribute nearly a net £1 billion a month and the members that receive that generosity threaten to punish you severely if you dare to leave. Punish with what? We'll take our people back?
How do countries like Canada, Australia and New Zealand ever survive?
Common sense says that the EU as it exists today is doomed to failure. No organisation can be run effectively by committee. I think Liz Bilney has hit the nail on the head. It will turn out to be a battle of vested interests v the people.

"It will turn out to be a battle of vested interests v the people."

Bit like this Country then IT and no I'm on the fence and not pro or anti EU on the whole at the moment.

Vote out Stan you know it makes sense.

Whats it worth.. I am open to bribery on this one occasion -):

Your future Stan !!

Nah, having lived through the Thatcher, Blair and Cameron years I can live through just about anything.

The EU is useless , corrupt and riddled with fraud , Sir Bernard Ingram has said , writing in The yorkshire post . Scathing attack on EU.

"corrupt and riddled with fraud" well Ingram should know all about that then being a "Con" sevative won't he.

Ingram has asked: "Why should the UK throw another £12 billion a year down these mafia and assorted criminal drains?"
Good question. Same point as I made a few posts ago.
Ingram was a journalist and civil servant not a government minister or MP. He became Margaret Thatcher's press secretary and was probably the first 'spin doctor'. A practice taken to the level of brain surgeon during the Blair years.
Instead of attempting to kill the messenger by scorn, wouldn't it be more intelligent to listen to the message?

Stan wants out of the EU iturama he'd just like to hear Corbyn say it !

Corbystan is that anywhere near Afghanistan?
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it will not be the entrenched on either side who will determine the outcome
unfortunately but inevitably, all we currently see is loads of sabre rattling from one side and half promises from the other

It will be decided by us the people ,hopefully with all the mad rubbish going on we will get out of the rotten stinking EU .

Makes me laugh that they say Britain will be punished for leaving ,the same corrupt idiots who have basically told Greece to go it alone with the migrants ,build a camp on one of the islands to house 400 000 they say .
Greece needs help ,where are the EU now ? why are we not helping to police their borders .

as i said, it's not the entrenched who will make the decision