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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

ExecLine - 18 Apr 2017 12:24 - 6762 of 12628

Party responses (most are broadly in favour) in brief:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-general-election-live-statement-10246815


Fred1new - 18 Apr 2017 13:24 - 6763 of 12628

Bring back, Nigel and Boris.

Post 6759

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I wonder what the lies on the tory bus adverts will be this time?

Forgot to buses have been confiscated for tory fiddling of expenses.

(A well-known tory complaint during a period of austerity for all. (Sorry some.))

cynic - 18 Apr 2017 16:04 - 6764 of 12628

hey fred, you can get off your arse and vote for the mccluskey muppet puppet

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imo TM is turning into a very fine PM

calling an early GE is always something of a gamble that can backfire, but i would very much hope to see her returned with a decent majority so she can get on with dealing with the Brussels plutocrats without fear of being derailed by SNP and others

hlyeo98 - 18 Apr 2017 16:23 - 6765 of 12628

Why must theresa called a snap election and crash the market now???? Why???

cynic - 18 Apr 2017 16:26 - 6766 of 12628

per above :-)

hlyeo98 - 18 Apr 2017 16:36 - 6767 of 12628

Maybe Brexit will be reversed if she's voted out.

cynic - 18 Apr 2017 16:38 - 6768 of 12628

and you're worried about today's hiccough???????

Fred1new - 18 Apr 2017 16:39 - 6769 of 12628

Manuel,

I was asked today if being a liar was now a necessity for being a tory party MP?

I was told it was only a necessity for a Con party PM.

cynic - 18 Apr 2017 16:44 - 6770 of 12628

is that so :-)

so can you be relied upon to cast a vote for (almost) the first time in your life?

i understand that the bookies give that even longer odds that the mccluskey muppet puppet winning the upcoming ge ..... but no doubt that is an outrageous lie

Fred1new - 18 Apr 2017 16:56 - 6771 of 12628

At the moment separating fact from fiction in UK politics and World politics is very difficult and most often impossible.


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Political statements of policies seem to be made for this reason:

“It has always seemed to me that so long as you produce your dramatic effect, accuracy of detail matters little. I have never striven for it and I have made some bad mistakes in consequence. What ("matters is") if I hold my readers?”
― Arthur Conan Doyle

VICTIM - 18 Apr 2017 17:04 - 6772 of 12628

Doesn't stop you boring the socks of everyone ad nauseam on here though does it .

Fred1new - 18 Apr 2017 17:07 - 6773 of 12628

Giggles,

Are are you trolling?

Fred1new - 18 Apr 2017 17:34 - 6774 of 12628

Martini and Dil,

Better than a cartoon. But I do admire your choice of girlfriend.

"Theresa May can never be trusted on anything she says ever again. She is a patently dishonest politician who cannot keep her word, because for her, partisan self-interest is more important. Her position was clear. A few weeks ago, May’s spokesperson said: “There isn’t going to be one. It isn’t going to happen. There is not going to be a general election.”

May claims that her U-turn on a snap general election was driven by the threat of Brexit being obstructed by parliament. This is a lie. There is no obstruction. To the chagrin of many ardent remainers, Labour voted through article 50 and emphasised it would respect the will of the British people.

Live General election 2017: poll suggests voters back Theresa May U-turn - Politics live
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May was the remainer who reinvented herself as a hard Brexiteer, again for partisan self-interest. May was the leader who allowed her chancellor to break a key Tory election pledge on national insurance, only to U-turn when the betrayal became impossible to argue for because of her small majority.

She said that now wasn’t the time for a Scottish independence referendum because of the instability it would cause, and then plumps for an unnecessary general election. She announced a pause on the Hinkley Point C nuclear power station and then – under pressure from China’s regime – U-turned."


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/18/labour-jeremy-corbyn-time-to-fight-theresa-may



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hlyeo98 - 18 Apr 2017 18:42 - 6775 of 12628

I am not voting for her. She's a traitor.

iturama - 18 Apr 2017 18:49 - 6776 of 12628

Are you in her constituency? Never mind, she will romp home.

grannyboy - 18 Apr 2017 18:55 - 6777 of 12628

BREXIT means BREXIT!!!.

MaxK - 18 Apr 2017 20:03 - 6778 of 12628

Don't look now....



http://www.cityam.com/263086/former-lib-dem-business-secretary-vince-cable-seeking

required field - 18 Apr 2017 20:15 - 6779 of 12628

I frankly think TM will win with a nice majority...the reason for this snap election is that she probably wants to be in a strong position and avoid divisions within the Tory party...Brexit therefore becomes easier....the Scottish referendum could be out of sight in the distant future if at all....leaving the EU with everything that implies taking precedence over the Caledonian troubles...tactical prowess by the PM ?...

Dil - 18 Apr 2017 20:18 - 6780 of 12628

Wow Fred a politician changes their mind hold the front page !

Fred1new - 18 Apr 2017 20:57 - 6781 of 12628

Dil,

How often do you change your mind??
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