Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

That is not the legal definition.

The defense against joint enterprise is lack of prior knowledge and not having the expectation of the crime being committed.

Good article EL, nicked :-)

Sums it up well, but we will have to see what Dave comes back with.

If it's as outlined, the so called renegotiation will be shown for what it is.

I know of someone who gave a lift a couple of his friends to collect some money from someone. He also had another friend with him who stayed in the car. When they arrived one stayed in the car and the other three went to the house. The guy at the house would not give the money. One of the two guys who wanted the money pulled a replica gun. The guy that I know tried to stop things getting out of hand. They left and the guy in the house called the police. All four were arrested. They all spent 6 months on remand in prison. Two were charged with joint enterprise and were found innocent in court when the police offered no evidence.

You seem to suffer from strange companions!

Day by day now I do wonder if H/S is posting behind bars.

He should be!

Stan
The point is that they were just average people who gave a couple of people a lift. Very easy to get involved with joint enterprise by accident and have no actual involvement. They were both at a good university and in the process of taking their final exams. Because of the stupidity of the police and CPS they have both had to repeat their final years. It could happen to anyone. That is why the Supreme Court overturned convictions of joint enterprise. It is too easily used by the police as is conspiracy.

Two polls from MORI and ICM yesterday show remain ahead

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9634

It wont when Dave comes back with a washout deal.


Boris is waiting.

Can't help feeling that that north Korean leader Kim Jong-Un is going to end up by being retired by his proche generals....you can't bump off all the main figure heads of a state like that without repercussions....if that happened there might be a glorious reunification of the two Koreas !...

I think that unfortunately the public will be too frightened to leave. The terms of the deal will be forgotten in a few days and then it will be about fear.

There's no deal, so far.

Maybe Dave is holding out?

Perhaps DC will grow a pair, tell the EU where to go and campaign for the LEAVE camp.
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Pigs might fly too.

It's obvious the €urobeans don't want to give even the mild reforms asked for.

The idea that you could rely on the goodwill of the the other €urovision contestants is so absurdly optimistic as to be laughable.


Why is Dave wasting his time?

I would think many of the EU are fed up with the arrogance of Dave and his mates attempting to tell them what they should do.

The negotiating methods resemble the approach to the Raj.

Jumped up little englanders comes to mind!

What about the statement from the Austrian Chancellor that ''we are a democratic country, no one can force us to do something.''
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Those 'jumped up little englanders' just happen to be a major contributor to the EU.
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The arguments are getting emotional already and the real campaigns haven't started. One side is saying that Cameron did not ask for enough and wasn't tough enough. The other side is saying that Cameron was unreasonable in asking for changes.

I think Cameron played it exactly right. If he had asked for much more then the EU members would not have spoken to him at all. You have to realise that there are millions of people in the UK who are quite happy with the EU and our current deal. The number of people who want to leave the EU no matter what is quite small, but they make a lot of noise disproportionate to their number.

The UK parliament tend to play by the rules, after all it's just not cricket not to. Yet time and time again we hear that various EU members ignore the rules. So if it's ok for the Austrians why not the UK or any other country. Makes a mockery of the Freedom of Movement.
We have seen how tight-knit the EU members are (not) you just have to see the individual countries securing their borders.
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