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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Chris Carson - 28 Mar 2016 13:59 - 69491 of 81564

THIS SHOWER WILL NEVER BE A GOVERNMENT CALLING!!!!

John Woodcock calls on MPs to rally against Jeremy Corbyn as he warns Labour 'cannot go on like this'
It comes after Mr Corbyn was accused by Mr Woodcock of turning his party into a 'f******* laughing stock'

By Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent8:41AM GMT 25 Mar 2016
A Labour MP has called on his colleagues to rally against Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, warning that the Party "cannot go on like this”.
John Woodcock, the Barrow and Furness MP, has attacked the Labour leader and accused him of allowing the Government “to wreak havoc on the country without properly being held to account”.
Writing in the Daily Mirror today, the Labour MP called on his party to take an alternative path or risk seeing families “being bled dry” by the Conservatives.


It comes after Mr Corbyn was accused by Mr Woodcock of turning his party into a 'f******* laughing stock' after an internal list emerged branding MPs "hostile", neutral or supportive of the leader.


The publication of the list, which details almost every member of the parliamentary Labour party divided into five categories, has led to calls for an urgent investigation after MPs accused the leadership of "bullying" and "black-listing" members.

In a boisterous exchange at Prime Minister's Questions on Mr Cameron joked: "There are five categories ... we've got core support - I think you can include me in that lot."
Mr Corbyn angrily told the Prime Minister to "leave the theatre and return to reality" following the exchange, which prompted a furious reaction from Mr Woodcok, who tweeted: "F****** disaster.
"Worst week for Cameron since he came in and that stupid f******* list makes us look like a laughing stock".

In his piece today, Mr Woodcock wrote: “Jeremy is a nice man who is doing his best. But it is time to remember our loyalty actually lies to the people who desperately need a Labour government.
“For the sake of people being bled dry by a Government that thinks it has a divine right to rule, we simply cannot go on like this.”

It comes as MPs claim a Labour shadow cabinet member listed as being "hostile" to Jeremy Corbyn on a leaked party memo is being targeted "because she is Jewish".
Luciana Berger, the shadow minister for mental health, is one of just two members of Mr Corbyn's top team listed as being unsupportive of the leader.
A senior Labour MP told the Telegraph: "I think she is on there because she is Jewish, it is a concern for a number of MPs who have been looking closely at where Jewish Labour MPs are on that list."

Haystack - 28 Mar 2016 14:04 - 69492 of 81564

It may be an unpleasant reality for some, but Cameron is still a popular leader at home and abroad. Personally, I am very happy with him.

Chris Carson - 28 Mar 2016 14:07 - 69493 of 81564

Jeremy Corbyn has fumbled this Tory crisis, but his enemies are nowhere to be seen
The woes of the Conservative Party should have been the moderates' chance to remove their leader. Yet somehow they are making him stronger


By John McTernan12:16PM GMT 25 Mar 2016 CommentsComment
When a wolf has its jaws clamped on your fist its grip will periodically relax as it breathes. The natural human instinct is to try to pull your hand out. The tearing against the wolf's teeth increases your bleeding, giving the beast the taste for you and emboldens it. What you should be doing is forcing you first deeper and deeper down its throat, choking it and eventually killing it. Patience, persistence and a plan beat panic – every time.
"Labour properly led should be steaming ahead in the polls. But it isn't."
So it is with Corbyn's grip on the Labour Party. As the jaws tighten, Labour moderates just want to pull back and regroup. Right-time-ism is rife – "it's not the right time... we need to wait till the right time... strike at the right time." Of course, there is only one right time – when you can win. Though there are plenty of wrong times too, but they can be summed up in one phrase – on Corbyn's terms.
A conflict is coming. Whenever it comes it will be brutal and bloody – there is no peaceful way to commit regicide. But every revolution creates its own legitimacy – a successful takeover legitimises whatever and however it was done. Corbyn's team know that – they may have no support in the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP), as the risible list they drew up of colleagues shows – but the thing is, it doesn't matter how much you laugh at a hit list if the bullet still strikes you between the eyes.


The 'list' show that Corbyn and his team are no joke – they want control. Just as Unite delivered the new MPs who provide a large part of Corbyn's PLP support, so they will deliver the deselections when the time comes.
Worse than that, the pitiful performances of Corbyn and McDonnell over the last week or so show just how much they endanger Labour's future. This has not merely been Cameron's worst week ever – it has been a defining moment. Cameron secured the first Tory majority in over a century by being more popular than his own party and by persuading voters that his leadership was sufficient to neutralise the toxic Tory brand. Cameron himself was proof that the Tories could be trusted on the NHS, would run the economy fairly, were no longer the nasty party. It was some achievement – but it was always a fragile one. Two budgets and two abandoned attacks on the disadvantaged and all the careful detoxification is set at naught. Cameron is damaged – but he is going anyway. Osborne is damaged – and he was the anointed successor. For the Tories and their modernising project this moment feels like Black Wednesday when we fell out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM). That robbed the Tories of economic credibility. Nearly permanently. It took a global recession to get them back in the game.

To paraphrase Rahm Emanuel, never waste a crisis. Labour properly led should be steaming ahead in the polls. But it isn't. When the Tories are in trouble you can rely on Corbyn to rescue them – he really is their greatest ally. Whether it is not mentioning IDS' resignation, the continuing embarrassment of his performance at Prime Minister's Questions, or his hit list, Corbyn can always turn a conversation about Tory failures into one about his own inadequacies.
"Wrong!" shout his supporters; "Labour has a one point lead in one poll. Jeremy is more popular than the PM in another." This, of course, is the Corbynista speciality – showing how Jeremy can look barely adequate when measured against a very low bar. The same was done when Jim McMahon won Oldham, and will be done when Sadiq Khan is elected Mayor of London. The line is essentially that Corbyn should be supported because Labour voters are still voting Labour.
The problem is that not enough people voted Labour at the last election. Labour needs to win Tory and UKIP voters. Those should be available given the catastrophic and defining failure of Osborne's Budget. It is the fact that they are not moving which should terrify Labour backbenchers. Corbyn's failure in the face of Tory collapse should be the spur for the PLP removing him.

Fred1new - 28 Mar 2016 14:38 - 69494 of 81564

Jeremy Corbyn overtakes David Cameron in leadership satisfaction ratings
The Ipsos MORI poll showed Mr Corbyn up ten points and David Cameron down ten points after last week's Budget.


Going, going, gone!

8-)

Chris Carson - 28 Mar 2016 14:42 - 69495 of 81564

Is that the same poll that predicted a Labour landslide at the last Election? LOL!!!

TANKER - 28 Mar 2016 14:48 - 69496 of 81564

the uk would be safer under hitler than Cameron the liar attempting to sell out the uk
but is family and friends are doing great under the eu with millions in land subsides via out taxes
the man is a crook only interested in is own ends

Haystack - 28 Mar 2016 14:51 - 69497 of 81564

ComRes poll CON 37%(-1), LAB 35%(+4), LDEM 7%(-1), UKIP 9%(-3). The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday, at the same time as IDS’s resignation.

TANKER - 28 Mar 2016 14:51 - 69498 of 81564

I have sent over 5 e mails to the BETTER IN EUROPE campaign on their figures which are just damn lies I have had no response their figs are wrong just lies
scare mongers

vote out

Haystack - 28 Mar 2016 14:52 - 69499 of 81564

A new Survation EU referendum poll has topline figures of

REMAIN 46%(-2), LEAVE 35%(+2), DON’T KNOW 19%(nc).

Remain lead in telephone polls remains mostly undiminished

TANKER - 28 Mar 2016 14:54 - 69500 of 81564

has a old age pensioner and wise to the world
will say this the cons will never gain or keep labour voters .
and when conservative votes like myself ans family and hundreds of close friends
sick of the con lies they have lost our votes
if this is all over the uk then they will not get back in

cynic - 28 Mar 2016 18:29 - 69501 of 81564

BRUSSELS SUSPECT
interesting that one of the suspects in the brussels bombing was released without charge due to inability to make the evidence stick
presumably this chap is a known sympathiser or more, and if so, the kneejerk reaction, is to charge him anyway .....

however, i recognise that would be a pretty grim path to follow - ie i don't like your political sympathies so i'll throw you in jail or deport you

Haystack - 28 Mar 2016 20:03 - 69502 of 81564

Easter cookies

cynic - 28 Mar 2016 20:06 - 69503 of 81564

why no feet?
anyway, surely the stigmata should be on the palm and if so, the hands are wrong

Haystack - 28 Mar 2016 21:29 - 69504 of 81564

That is the palm of the hand.

Apart from anything, the stigmata is wrong. The nails would have been driven between the bones of the wrist before the hand. Nails driven through the hand would not support weight.

MaxK - 28 Mar 2016 21:56 - 69505 of 81564

That was the age of miracles.

Unfortunately, Dave has run fresh out of miracles, and it shows!

TANKER - 29 Mar 2016 08:31 - 69506 of 81564

watching RT TV LAST NIGHT CROSS TALK IT GAVE YOU ALL THE REASONS OF NATO EU MIGRANTS

THE EU HAVE DETROYED NATO IT NOW DEFUNCTED AND FULL OF EU FREE LOADERS
OBAMA GAVE BILLIONS TO THE FRIENDLY REBELS IN SYRIA WHO TURNED OUT TO BE WORSE THAN ISIL
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING PROGRAME
AND ALSO SAID FRANCE AND THE UK WERE GOING TO FORM A FEDERAL ARMED FORCES .
THE AMERICAN SAID NATO HAD BEEN DEFUNCTED BY GERMANY CALLING FOR NO BORDERS THIS DECISION WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR NATO BUT GREAT
FOR TERRORISTS THE DECISION MUST BE REVERSED THE EU IS NOW NOT SAFE FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC

TRY AND SEE IF YOU CAN WATCH CROSS TALK FROM LAST NIGHT

TANKER - 29 Mar 2016 08:32 - 69507 of 81564

AND OBAMA HAS BEEN OVER RULED ON GROUND TROOPS IN IRAQ THEY ARE TO SEND HUNDREDS TO PROTECT THE OIL FIELDS

TANKER - 29 Mar 2016 08:39 - 69508 of 81564

the American blamed the weakness of America under Obama for the Syria war
wanting to get rid of assad they also blame bush for Iraq Libya
they did not think it out
Russia have shown America up as a weak country under Obama
we must along with the uk to destroy isil .

TANKER - 29 Mar 2016 09:00 - 69509 of 81564

when you are not allowed to protect your borders its the end of the country
terrorists are now free to travel all over the eu without any passport the eu
has destroyed it self . the eu a free zone for criminals to act .
no borders no country

the EU is now a war zone with no army or any leader to act all blaming some one else
all the arms coming via Syria with the American dollars .
we must allow Russia and assad to wipe the terrorists out Obama and is left wing shit
have fcuked up
Donald trump is 100% correct

iturama - 29 Mar 2016 09:50 - 69510 of 81564

RT, Russia Today, is a Kremlin backed propaganda tool that at times borders on the ridiculous. The France24 current affairs programs are much more interesting and balanced.
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