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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new - 02 Feb 2009 15:00 - 696 of 6906

JKD,
I occasionally used the squelch button, but reserve for individuals who I think rejoice in being grossly personally offensive to me, or others. Sometimes, attempts are made to pass off such remarks as humorous. Having written that, I do enjoy some political satire.

Also, I use the squelch button for those, who I think debate or present arguments at schoolyard, or farmyard levels of thought. (This probably sounds pompous, but now as I am retired, I am allowed my own comfort zones.)

However, I dont make guesses, or respond to what somebody has, or may write, without reading it first. I think that, if I was doing so, I would be bordering on the psychotic or be omniscient.

As yet, I have not squelched MrCharts, as generally I find his contributions amusing. Also, his postings may give an insight into some of the moral positioning, of some Israelis. In my mind, the positions appear to be of a similar nature to the more extreme positioning of some Palestinians.

I hope, these extreme positions are only held by the minorities of each group and the more rational may be able to negotiate sensibly.

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I think of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, is based more on ethnic differences rather than a true racial divide (depending on usage of racial). I think, possibly, if the problem was approached with regard to the cultural and economic differences, a solution may be found. There would have to be a mutual acceptance of cultural differences and the enablement of Palestinians to develop a free truly independent economy and be fully self-governing, which is not dependent of the largess of an Israeli Government

That means allowing both groups of Palestinians to develop free trading route for Gaza and the West Bank.

There would also have to be a reversal of the recent Israeli Encroachment and Settlements on Palestinian land.

cynic - 02 Feb 2009 15:14 - 697 of 6906

Fred .... you presuppose that the lunatics on both sides are capable of common sense

Fred1new - 02 Feb 2009 15:17 - 698 of 6906

Cynic, No, but I have this phantasy of the sane taking over the lunatic asylum once again.

Ruth - 02 Feb 2009 15:47 - 699 of 6906

MrCharts - 02 Feb 2009 15:53 - 700 of 6906

Is that one of those, if the cap fits........, posts? :)
I'm trying ever so hard to think who you might mean.........:)
Richard

Fred1new - 03 Feb 2009 20:22 - 701 of 6906

Charts, Are you hearing voices as well?

Gausie - 03 Feb 2009 21:09 - 702 of 6906

Fred

you started this thread 4 weeks ago today, with the question 'what will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?'

It seems we now have an answer - down from $53 to $41.

chocolat - 03 Feb 2009 21:25 - 703 of 6906

And we've lost about 9 cents against the dollar since the 8 Jan high.
And pump prices have increased.

Blimey - only 4 weeks?

Kayak - 04 Feb 2009 00:09 - 704 of 6906

Wow that works out at 25 rants per day :-)

MightyMicro - 04 Feb 2009 01:18 - 705 of 6906

LOL

MightyMicro - 04 Feb 2009 01:22 - 706 of 6906

Nice to see that Iran is sending 'humanitarian' aid to Gaza.

"Cyprus has searched a cargo ship suspected of smuggling weapons from Iran to the Gaza Strip, the foreign ministry in Nicosia has said." - BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7868726.stm

Gausie - 04 Feb 2009 07:44 - 707 of 6906

What is it about the phrases 'homemade' or 'home grown'? They get used a lot by apologists to describe the rockets that Hamas fire at Israel - as if by being homemade the rockets contain wholesome and healthy ingredients and are assembled by bumbling idiots so couldnt possibly do any harm. The truth is that these are high tech modern armaments developed by one of the six nations in the world who really do understand rocket technology.

The latest homemade and wholesome development by the Gaza rocket technology suppliers: Iran launches home grown satellite

cynic - 04 Feb 2009 08:39 - 708 of 6906

ah but at least being homemade they do provide local employment and, of course, tax revenue for the benefit of the whole!

Fred1new - 04 Feb 2009 10:08 - 709 of 6906

You mean a little like the handouts America sends Israel.

Gausie - 04 Feb 2009 10:27 - 710 of 6906

no.

MrCharts - 04 Feb 2009 10:36 - 711 of 6906

The Monchegorsk (Iran Hedayt) is carrying 10 containers of Iranian rockets and other weapons for rearming Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

The missiles and other weapons, concealed in welded steel containers, contravene UN Security Council Resolution 1747 which forbids Iran to export arms under international sanctions and violates Israel's terms for accepting a Gaza ceasefire in its 22-day operation.

If the ship is released, it will be intercepted by the Israeli Navy and that might result in an Israel - Iran war.

Some, no doubt, will already be preparing to write in support of an appeal for the Iranian casualties of an unprovoked Israeli genocidal attack on innocents blah blah blah.

Richard

Fred1new - 04 Feb 2009 10:39 - 712 of 6906

Horray!!!

Gausie - 04 Feb 2009 10:55 - 713 of 6906

Fred - if the prospect of a Israel/Iran war excites you to cheers then you're even sicker than I thought you were.

cynic - 04 Feb 2009 10:59 - 714 of 6906

as i have frequently said, it is the outsiders as much as the domestic lunatics who keep fomenting the conflict

MrCharts - 04 Feb 2009 11:03 - 715 of 6906

Having gaps in this thread (the visible posts are 708, 710, 711, 713, 714) where the squelched one (T.S.O.) has apparently posted is mildly amusing, a bit like playing that children's game, Battleships......... :)

Richard
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