Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

t's the silence that puzzles me. Last week the chancellor stood up in parliament to announce that benefits for the very poor would be cut yet again. On the same day, in Luxembourg, the British government battled to maintain benefits for the very rich. It won. As a result, some of the richest people in the country will each continue to receive millions of pounds in income support from taxpayers.

There has been not a whimper of protest. The Guardian hasn't mentioned it. UK Uncut is silent. So, at the other end of the spectrum, is the UK Independence party.

I'm talking about the most blatant transfer of money from the poor to the rich that has occurred in the era of universal suffrage. Farm subsidies. The main subsidy, the single farm payment, is doled out by the hectare. The more land you own or rent, the more money you receive.

Since 1999, more progressive European nations have been trying to limit the amount of public money a farmer can capture under the common agricultural policy. It looked as if, this year, they might at last succeed. But throughout the negotiations that ended last week, two governments in particular resisted: those

ids 1.5m
camerons family 780k
yeo 1.1m
hesetine 1.3m
and many more in gov

Surprising what you'll use Freda when it suits your side , nothing about reform , nothing about out of control immigration , nothing about throwing money down the drain , nothing about the fact that a MAD kraut runs the show , nothing about the NHS , and why should there be retaliation from other states .

VIC ,he has nothing to say no opinion ,he's a real nowhere man ,
i feel a song coming on.

Retaliation is a two way street...and they have more to lose.

because there is so much unknown, it is impossible to get a straight answer, and that is not just because it will be coming from an interested source

"in" will win because fear of what "out" may bring will outweigh the relative certainty of the unchangeable crap already in place

I plan to put my leaflet in an envelope and send it back to:

The EU Propaganda Department
10 Downing Street
London SW1A 2AA

and what about the "out" propaganda stuff that you will no doubt be receiving?

It,

You really are going to frighten the ---- out of Dave and No 10.

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Couldn't you put JB in a brown paper bag and post that to the same address.


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Make it a plastic bag!

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"in" will win because fear of what "out" may bring will outweigh the relative certainty of the unchangeable crap already in place
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cynic the real danger is staying in ,we have a chance to save the UK ,i hope the British people are not that stupid to stay in through fear .

Also i think we may have a shock on the day it could swing heavily one way or the other

I can only deal with fact C. Cameron has been aggressive in his defence of the EU from the get go. Or rather defence of a "reformed europe" whatever that is.
If I receive leaflets from the out lobby, I will probably recycle them. I am not a complete rebel...

The only fear that should be promoted, is that if there is a remain vote then, just like the eu masters in Brussels have stated they're are already planning to get rid of the Dublin agreement and SHARE out the millions of immigrants that is flooding into Europe..Someones going to have to pay for ALL these immigrants, that means raising taxes..Which will be put on food and childrens clothes.

As to these J P Morgans/ Goldmansacks of this world spout the pitfalls of leaving the eu, what they don't tell you is that they receive money from Brussels, so are in hock to them...Just like i've stated before on those who have worked for the eu and receive a pension with the threat that if they criticise the european project they'l lose their pensions..

It is a good idea that the government is sending a leaflet to put its side of the case. It is exactly what Wilson did in the last referendum. You could hardly expect the government to do nothing to communicate the official position,

I suppose some of the immigrants might get "jobs" (not those intended for the old boys) and add to GDP of the UK and EU.

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Na, they will all exist on Welfare payouts.

Well you said it Freda they will all exist on Welfare payouts , just tell us really where all this employment is coming from . Haystack do you work for the Government in some capacity , you must do .

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Have a feeling it is political self-interest on the cabal in No 10.

The danger is that said propaganda can be extended to the needs of the incumbent political party at General election.

The creeping use of funds by the present political mob to distort previous elections has already occurred.

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Freda is that dot thing you do the size of your Brain by any chance .

Fred's got nowhere to go at the moment ,he spends his time having a dig at Cameron , now we are all having a dig at Cameron he won't know what to do ,maybe he will start on the Queen .