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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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gazkaz - 22 Aug 2013 11:14 - 712 of 1034

Gone fishing - back soon :o)

Sahara
- in reality based on everything I have read (a lot :o) - in the world of today it's impossible to escape in the true sense
- we are (at least in the physical sense) - bio chemical electro magnetic beings, and as such, just common sense dictates that our electro magnetic aspect will be influenced by external electro magnetics (even at basics - Flemmings rule...an' all).

They have bathed us to saturation point in a smog of EMF's
- if you can get mobile reception, TV reception, radio reception, live near power lines, cell towers etc then we are swamped in it.
- As well as the mobiles & wireless routers, the electrical wiring in our walls and floors generate electro magnetic fields ("dirty" electricity is an interesting read)

- on top of that the electricty output to our homes, street lighting etc is all - positive feed - and what might be termed the negative return side of the circuit back to the power station....is through the ground/earth.
(Similar to car electrics - positive wires run to components...and the circuit is completed back to the battery..via the cars bodywork)
- that creates all sorts of disturbances to the local - natural electro magnetic fields.

Earthing - is another interesting subject.
We used to be in permanent physical contact with mother earth
- walked barefoot
- or walked with feet covered in natural materials
- and slept in contact with the earth

Now we have insulating soles on our shoes which themselves are made of synthetic materials.
- our buildings are supported on "insulating" damp proof courses
- we walk on synthetic carpets or laminates
- and sleep on insulating "memory...foam"

We wear syntheic insulating clothing and our cars are insulated from "the ground"
(remember the little earth straps that were in vogue and dangled from the back of cars :o)

- longer story shorter - we end up "charged" out of synch with the earths..natural charge.
(notice all modern and old age "gurus" - all walk barefoot)

Pragmatic me (experiment no 272/a) - my partner suffers badly with migraines occasionally - during an episode
- suggested she come outside and stand on the damp grass - have you ever tried pesuading someone with a bad migraine....to just move !
- after much coaxing, she tried it (feeling like a poorly dork, stood in the middle of the back garden ..barefoot in her dressing gown on wet grass)
- 10 mins later she came in....and said - I think it is probably just pychological but I do actually feel a bit better.

So rather than escape from "IT" - i think the best that we can aim for is try to mitigate its effects
- get outside barefoot in the garden and vit D generating sunlight as often as possible
- have rouers as far away from you as possible
- have beds near but away from a wall with no electric in the wall(if possible) & have no mains electric items on bedside cabinets (or mobile phones)
- avoid laptops on your lap
- avoid bluetooth earpieces, headphones etc
- avoid microwaving any food
etc etc

And perhaps more importantly just be EMF aware.

I like the analogy
- we are not humans with a soul
- we are souls having a physical human experience
- a variation of your body is the temple of your soul I suppose.

Look after your body and you have a better experience.

Just read this about half an hour ago (short and punchy)

http://www.naturalnews.com/041736_modern_science_false_assumptions_consciousness.html

Connects with the Dorkins youT you posted the other day....quite well too.

Well taking my own advice - off in the garden & sunshine - need to sort the summer house roof
(an overhanging neighbours tree branch - which I recently removed has rubbed through the roofing felt)

- I don't know if that falls under - another job and no peace for the wicked
- or.....a chance to distance from household EMF....health therapy





Saturn6 - 22 Aug 2013 14:12 - 713 of 1034

All very sensible Gaz - And to let you know I am sat in shorts typing this in-between walking barefoot in my garden, topping up Vit D, and patio tending my new seedlings and my developed vegetables. (just waiting for the toms to redden ;-/

Weekends is a trip away from the norm to the Dart or other areas of immense natural beauty where phone signals are lost for total relaxation with loved ones. So agree whole-heartedly with all you said.

|Funny you mention migraine, I had a link in my daily e-mail from Dr Mercola detailing the very thing, mentions Aspartame but I am sure you have eradicated most if not all traces of that from your and your wifes diet/...

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/08/22/migraine-causes.aspx?e_cid=20130822Z2_PRNL_art_1&utm_source=prmrnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20130822Z2

S.

gazkaz - 22 Aug 2013 14:25 - 714 of 1034

Over the last month, investors are overwhelming purchasing
- nearly... 500 times.... as many Silver Eagles
- as Gold Eagles from the US Mint!





Ever since the big take-down in the price of the precious metals in April of this year,
- an interesting trend has taken place in the Gold & Silver Eagle market.

While demand for both coins remained strong in the first four months of the year, investors are now ........overwhelming purchasing more Silver Eagles
- banking on much higher gains in silver.... than gold.

The gold to silver sales ratio was 19.5/1 in April,
- fell to 80/1 in July
- and so far in August it is ......a staggering 489/1

And lest we forget......

- US & Canadian mint sales of Eagles & Maples alone
- were recently - already exceeding..... US & Canadian produced new mine supplies

And in addition

- Private mints ??
- dealers were reporting..... sales of generic silver rounds (Buffaloes etc)
- were outpacing sales of Mint Eagles......at 3 : 1

And India's gold import meddling - including a total ban on import of coins & medallions.....has driven the sheeple towards silver too.

- as will have Pakistans "temporary" Gold import ban.

Almost as if - they ?? - were trying to break the western cartels - Silver - achilles heel.



gazkaz - 22 Aug 2013 14:45 - 715 of 1034

Sahara - i think she has just about come over - to the light side

- the only cordial she will buy if we run out of Tillmans organic blueberry juice is Ribena (the one with sugar not aspartame - but it's the better of the two evils)
- we do a 30 mile round trip to buy "raw milk" from an authorised farm once a week
- on the way back pick up from a farm butchers - who can point to where the meat was walking last week
(and you have to walk around the strutting free range egg producers on the way in)
- have organic veg delivered once a week
- won't buy any brand of chewing gum - they all have aspartame in.
- and declines mammograms

- looking good too - as last year bought a chlorine filter and tap kit for drinking water
and asked...... if I would be kind enough to plumb it in on the sink :o)

She now even tries to subtly educate those at work....and says to me regularly
- it's like banging your head against a wall
(On the first occasion she said it - I replied don't forget
- you were once one of them - & I had the bumps & headaches to prove it :o)

Saturn6 - 22 Aug 2013 15:01 - 716 of 1034

Well you've come a lot further than me Gaz - But then you do have a more articulate way of putting your message across, although my wife will not drink diet drinks andlooks out for aspartame in products so one step forward ;-)

On chewing gum I only buy Xylitol from Aurivita but it does contain Soy lechtin which worries me as it more thn likely GM soy. They have the cinnamon on offer at the mo but not keen on that one personally...

http://www.auravita.com/product/Spry-Cinnamon-Gum-With-Xylitol.XLIR10013.html?RefId=60&AdId=416779

Gaz - Have you ever watched the Pet Goat video?...

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8eSdAlz2qU

S.


Saturn6 - 22 Aug 2013 19:18 - 717 of 1034

Charts...


S.

gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:05 - 718 of 1034

Sahara,

It was a long multi year process.
The full blow by blow aspartame history of 30yrs getting the poison approved was the initial penny that dropped as to.. there was a "bigger nasty picture"...in play.
That led to on to confirmation via vaccines, which led to the cancer.. eugenics also being in play
(the forbidden cure and Burzynski cancer is big business documentaries helped on the latter).

By the time she listened to Kevin Trudeau's interview - stating that when he atended the Bildyboorgers as a guest - they wanted 2/3rd the sheeple off the planet, together with the Aaron Rousso interview
- they came as no great suprise.

gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:08 - 719 of 1034

Jim Sinclair sent out an email alert this weekend advising readers that
- the current rally in gold and silver is the long awaited BIG ONE,
- that $50 silver is a given here, stating that the current move:
- This gold bull price phase is the one long predicted here that will return the most money to the fewest in the shortest period of time.

Sinclair states that as long anticipated, the bullion banksters
- have flipped
- and have clearly begun manipulating gold and silver to the bullish side,
- as the most massive move of the entire bull market lies directly ahead.

gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:13 - 720 of 1034

Faith in the markets....and their algo drivers.

Trading on the Nasdaq was halted on Thursday
- for more than 3 hours,
(and the only formal explanation that we got was that it was a “technical issue”)

On Tuesday, Goldman Sachs made thousands of .....“erroneous trades”
(that are now being cancelled).

If those trades had not been canceled, it could have cost Goldman “hundreds of millions of dollars”
(according to the Wall Street Journal).

If they run the also's and get the right result - they win, you lose
If they press the also button - and they get...the wrong result
- they get the trades cancelled - and their money back

As I said the other day - heads they win....& as for tails ? - well of course....you lose.

gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:21 - 721 of 1034

Erm "Hello Scotia Mocatta, It's JPMorgan...
- Yes, us
- Yes.... Again...
- Erm...We Need More Gold"

23 August


8 AUG (although a run around the garden to get there)
- then off out...the back door.... pronto


7th Aug


And I think at the end of the call Jamie probably said
(In his best Arnie the terminator voice)

"I'll be back"

gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:28 - 722 of 1034

Result of the f/flag & fake (Boston Style)
- chem wep attack ( on the day the inspectors arrived....:o)

Charlie Kaye ✔ @CharlieKayeCBS
BREAKING. @CBSNews has learned
- that the Pentagon is making the initial preparations for.....
- a Cruise missile attack on Syrian government forces

(They really do just keep running - the same old tired rinse & repeats - from the same old tired ....rinse & repeat playbook)

gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:36 - 723 of 1034

From Indian leases to negative GOFOs, from Chinese physical demand to Western bank paper gold deleveraging, and from practical mining cost floors to the ongoing playing out of the grandest experiment of monetary policy in history;
- there are a plethora of drivers for the price of the precious metal.
- But, for now,
- the only thing that counts is...... the 100-day moving average
- as gold prints its first positive closing breakout of 2013.



gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:42 - 724 of 1034

And - "The Results Are In"

Back on July 17, the New York Fed,
- which as always operates based on the decisions and inputs of its Primary Dealer superiors :o),
- asked the Dealer community....... for their thoughts on the Taper,
- specifically
- when and how much.

The survey has come back and the PD community has spoken.
- The answer:

Taper is announced, and begins, September
- with the first reduction in monthly purchases of $15 billion
($10Bn cut in TSY purchases, $5BN cut in MBS),
- eventually tapering to nothing in June 2014
(when the Dealers believe QE formally ends).

The FEDy will probably - re-run the survey
- on the basis that....
- the result.... obviously shows.....
- The primary dealers -.....didn't understand "The Question"

gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:50 - 725 of 1034

When looking at the 2005 and 2008 Gold rebound from lows,
- each resulted in a 70-72% rally,
- but that was just a mid-point in the overall trend before the next major correction.

The longer term trend shows the 2005 rally ended in 2008
- with a total move of +250%.
When looking at the full breadth of gold’s rally from the 2008 low to the 2011 peak at $1900,
- we see a similar +260% move.

The extended chart below shows....... what we may see going forward and,
- if... past is prologue, then.....sometime in 2016 gold could reach roughly $3500/oz.



gazkaz - 24 Aug 2013 12:59 - 726 of 1034

And - who..... "is having to"....pick up all the T-Bonds issued
- the schart shows the ratio of Fedy purchases
-VS-
- Johnny Foreigners net annual purchases

(Just to highlight things - the horizontal red dotted line - indicates a 1 : 1 ratio)


Johnny Foreigner - (predominantly Japan & China) - seems to be ........losing faith
- in the "safety" of the dollar...... & US Gov IOU's

gazkaz - 25 Aug 2013 00:33 - 727 of 1034

What is the - price of gold ??
- well - the paper comex price is $1397

http://bullmarketthinking.com/indian-gold-dealer-gold-is-now-trading-at-1800oz-small-factories-and-workshops-are-shutting-down/

The price of......Real physical gold is...??

Bull Market Thinking's Tekoa Da Silva today interviews a gold dealer in India about the Indian government's war on gold.
- The dealer reports that government restrictions on gold imports
- have driven the gold price.. in India

- up to..... $1,800 per ounce

gazkaz - 25 Aug 2013 00:55 - 728 of 1034

And what of - the - Real Physical Price of gold - in asia - back in Jun 13 ??

And
- If the State Bank Of Vietnam is forcing the nations banks....to close their punters gold accounts......then why
- do the banks need to... buy gold back....to be able - to give it back to the punters...
- so that they can meet the deadline to close off the accounts

..................................................................................................................

Most banks have closed their gold accounts to meet the State Bank of Vietnam's deadline of June 30 this year.

The SBV said that only five or six banks still had outstanding gold accounts to date,
- adding that the banks would be pushed and even ‘forced'
- to close all gold accounts ...by the end of this month... to meet the deadline.

http://www.vir.com.vn/news/en/top-news/most-banks-gold-accounts-to-close.html

Year to date, the State Bank of Vietnam
- has organised 30 auctions for 848,000 gold taels, of which it has sold 761,600 taels or 27.3 tonnes

Industry insiders said.......
- that most.... of the gold.... had been ....bought.... by banks
- to close all their accounts before the June 30 deadline.

Moral of the Tale

As the banks - have had to BUY gold from it's central bank auction - to close customer - gold accounts
- IF - you had put gold into "the banks" - gold accounts
- and wanted it....back
- "the banks" at that time - wouldn't have had it....to give back to you

Perhaps a lesson in Banking - and Bank IOU's ?

......................................................................................................................

And the - premium "the banks" had to pay above - comex paper price - to get hold of the "physical" - to pay back....and close punters gold accouts ??

Today (Jube), the premium was close to 5.5 million dong which is the equivalent of a very high premium of ......
- $217 per ounce over spot.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-06-17/gold-demand-extraordinary-vietnam-%E2%80%93-paying-217-premium-over-spot

gazkaz - 25 Aug 2013 01:10 - 729 of 1034

Remember - when the gold price tanked in April
(real reason a bazillion paper ounces were dumped on the market)
- but the talking heads alleged reason.....Cypus may be ...forced...
- to sell/lease their measley 13 Tonnes

-VS -

When news came out last week that India may lease the 200 tonness of Gold that was purchased from the IMF some 4 years ago.
(http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-21/foundering-india-about-flood-gold-market-200-tons-leased-gold)

The gold market price...... didn't even flinch

Moral of the tale

Talking heads - say....what they are told to say !!

gazkaz - 25 Aug 2013 01:34 - 730 of 1034

Sahara

You mentioned the emf from being sat on...... 2 mobiles and by a wireless router
- here is the..... live blood effect .....analysis
- of just - being a foot away from....only one.... "smart meter"
(3 mins)


mabel - 25 Aug 2013 10:34 - 731 of 1034

A must watch and I would be very grateful for any suggestions for gold and silver stocks with good management.

Many thanks.

mabel

http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2013/8/25_Eric_Sprott.html
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