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Cloudbase, the easy one first, laying the same amount will effectively give you a free bet on that line so you then need to green up.

ie back 100 at 5.0 and then lay 100 at 3.0 will give you a profit on the line of 200 (100 * (5-3)). You would then lay for 200/3 ie 66.66 to green up

As for the sports, i use a variety of sites and if i cant find the site that gives me the info then i will look on the forum as there will often be a thread with someone asking for a link. If that fails then i rely on google :-)

Sites i mainly use:

General:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport
http://home.skysports.com/

Cricket:
http://www.cricinfo.com/
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/home.asp

Rugby:
http://www.planet-rugby.com/
http://www.ercrugby.com/

Horseracing:
http://www.racingpost.co.uk/news/home.sd

Snooker:
http://www.worldofsnooker.co.uk/stats/

Sorry, forgot golf:
http://www.pgatour.com/
http://www.europeantour.com/

Cloudbase

Laying the same amount at 3.0 will lock in the profit but only on the player/team you are trading on. Any other result will mean you'll win nothing (you'll lose nothing too).

It is better to green up so that your profit is spread out on all outcomes.

To do this add up your profit and loss outcomes and divide the whole amount by the lay odds.

eg. Suppose you're on a darts match and you back player A at back odds at 5.0 with 10. Your profit/loss line on Player A will read +40 and Player B -10

Add 40 and 10 together (50) and divide by your lay odds of 3 and it should give you a "green" profit of 16.67 on both outcomes

I hope this manual greening is correct as I use the auto green up instead

Bak

"I hope this manual greening is correct as I use the auto green up instead"

Surely its 50-30=20/3 = 6.67 profit

Steve...Your right! I thought at the time a profit of 16. 67 was a bit on the optimistic side!

Cloudbase... Apologies for being thick!

Anyway, re the darts you mentioned earlier. Certainly agree that the movements are hugely volatile!

I dabbled in this market this time last year during my learning phase and won and lost about 200 in next to no time! The movements frightened me off!

I'll be trying it out again this time around but will be greening up asap.

I find that it works very well when players are of similar ability and when they're both struggling to finish on a double.

Fundy, thanks for that, so once the profits taken you then need to green up to lock it in? sorry for the dum ?'s but betting this way all new to me, makes scalping the index futures look like childs play lol.

bakko, thank god for the auto green up, would soon have my desk knee deep in paper working it out

I can't remember if you said you were on basic or pro at the moment but I just recorded a basic video which explains the whole thing from front to back: -

http://www.betangel.com/products/BA/betangel.html

You got an Equity card Scrip ?

:-)

LOL!

Dont you just hate nights at the pub

Been with a group of man u fans who asked fopr the neutrals opinion and i said "think theyll struggle early, prob be 0-0 at half time but theyll win easy in second half" when asked to predict the final score i went for 3-1 - oh well it won me a pint lol

World no 1 Llloyd just been knocked out of the darts - nice odds collapse on Taylor

Scrip, i'm on the basic at the mo, till i get me head round things, the video explains it very well thanks.It also answered another question for me in that what happened if you where on more than 1 horse when greening up.
Have you done one for the Pro version?
It must be easier if i'd had betting experience before i started, but will get there,just takes longer to sink in these days.

I'm working on a load of new material for pro at the moment. I'm redoing the entire set of videos over Christmas when I intend to do no trading at all!

On pro you can green up as little or as much as you like on each horse, you have manual control over the greening. Pro is a significantly advanced product now.

More help for Cloudbase and anyone else who doesn't know about it! I find livescore.com fantastic for following the scores in a wide range of football matches all over the world - on the one screen too. Updates are about every 2 minutes and goal times & scorer, yellow/red cards are shown as well.

And for horse racing I find gg.com very useful. Very quick to show results and surprisingly quick to give detailed results - all SPs, distances, times, etc.
Their 'Cards' give all the basic info the RP gives and it avoids the pain of having to log into RP each time you visit (unless you keep the contact 'open').

schiff ... I use at least two , you would be suprised how often one credits a goal to the wrong team !

xscores.com and goals365.com are two others to consider.

Also the minutes played can vary from site to site.

How many overs are these odi's ?

only 50